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12:25:46 PM valke2: we obviously don't know that the big bang theory is fact
12:25:58 PM vox_speaks_now: awaits way's stammering
12:26:01 PM gremlin_net: [83] valke2: You might not know that; some of us do though.
12:26:06 PM wanderercj17: we dont know that god exhists either
12:26:14 PM waytoomuchof: [14] valke2: obviously, you have no idea what a theory is
12:26:14 PM sakia786:
12:26:17 PM baronet_the3rd: indeed...if it were fact...it would be a law...not a theory
12:26:23 PM gr_julian: [109] brb, spellchecking an article.
12:26:23 PM valke2: I don't?
12:26:31 PM nakedguitarplaya: blasphamy
12:26:33 PM goddess_goldberry: [72] baronet, again, you don't understand scientific theory
12:26:35 PM waytoomuchof: [15] baronet_the3rd: theories don't translate into laws.
12:26:38 PM goddess_goldberry: [73] In science, a theory is a rigorously tested statement of general principles that explains observable and recorded aspects of the world.
12:26:40 PM nakedguitarplaya: settle down sinners
12:26:43 PM peacefulgarden777: what would confirm that existence for you?
12:26:44 PM gremlin_net: [84] baronet_the3rd: Gravity is a theory. That stuff falls down is a fact. There's no law of gravity, despite vernacular confusion.
12:26:44 PM goddess_goldberry: [74] A scientific theory therefore describes a higher level of understanding that ties "facts" together. A scientific theory stands until proven wrong-- it is never proven correct.
12:26:45 PM vox_speaks_now: aal..ge is broadcasting the olympics
12:26:55 PM goddess_goldberry: [75] a theory is the highest goal of science
12:26:56 PM aal_returnz: oh cool Vox
12:26:58 PM valke2: I may not know know what a theory is, but I know the big bang theory is not a proven fact
12:27:02 PM valke2: that's nice.
12:27:03 PM alper111: was the topic adoption?
12:27:07 PM valke2: Congratulations science
12:27:11 PM gr_julian* [110] sighs.
12:27:13 PM annie_pio_js: im soooooo sleepy
12:27:16 PM pontiffmaximus1: I know Air is there i feel it, without i sufficate... havent died form not having god in 20 years yet
12:27:18 PM wanderercj17: science is so mean
12:27:20 PM goddess_goldberry: [76] rowan whats up?
12:27:20 PM gremlin_net: [85] valke2: The big bang theory, itself a misnomer, is a collection of facts.
12:27:27 PM gr_julian: [111] goldie - the stupid! it burns!
12:27:28 PM vox_speaks_now: aal..they have earned a billion dollars from ads
12:27:33 PM aal_returnz: hey Prep !
12:27:34 PM valke2: It is a conclusion based on a collection of facts
12:27:42 PM valke2: and the conclusion is not a proven fact
12:27:48 PM peacefulgarden777: theory is a body of knowledge in science vs. conventional definition which is a hypothesis or possible explaination
12:27:48 PM goddess_goldberry: [77] lol rowan hehehe
12:27:58 PM gremlin_net: [86] For those waiting to be graduated from fifth grade: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=theory
12:27:58 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: september 10th, humans will be in the process of testing the principles behind the energy of the big bang. that will be a huge step
12:28:00 PM baronet_the3rd: and facts...as they are known at present..no?
12:28:01 PM waytoomuchof: [16] valke2: incorrect. Please read a book
12:28:05 PM vox_speaks_now: benny hinn was right all this time
12:28:05 PM goddess_goldberry: [78] rowan, just think about them breeding
12:28:09 PM valke2: and it is not accepted as such by all scientests
12:28:29 PM goddess_goldberry: [79] julio umm ok go ahead
12:28:29 PM alper111: you mean benny Hill?
12:28:34 PM goddess_goldberry: [80] julio i am talking to you
12:28:36 PM valke2: ok. I'll read a book
12:28:42 PM waytoomuchof: [17] valke2: unproven theories are called hypothesis, not theory
12:28:44 PM valke2: and the big bang theory will still not be a proven fact
12:28:48 PM baronet_the3rd: waytoomuch:.....are you always this smug?...or is it a psycholgical disorder?
12:28:51 PM gr_julian: [112] gg: *vomit* thanks.
12:28:59 PM alper111: most adopted kid s make bette3r
12:29:13 PM wanderercj17: GODs exhistence isnt a proven fact but pp still readily accept it
12:29:16 PM alper111: sorry, better than 4
12:29:18 PM gremlin_net: [87] valke2: So, within your illiteracy, how do you rationalise the theory of gravity?
12:29:20 PM chainsaw_assassin: [3] Man, I hate smug people like him.
12:29:20 PM goddess_goldberry: [81] valke, scientific theories are never proven, they can only be disproven
12:29:21 PM gr_julian: [113] baronet - it's physiological, it stems from having a penis he has to hitch to his belt rather than have it get calluses from dragging on the ground.
12:29:24 PM peacefulgarden777: actually the nature of reality is quite horrifically unknown and complex compared to the "notions" of science
12:29:27 PM waytoomuchof: [18] baronet_the3rd: I attempt to correct ignorance and question things requiring belief. Your interpretation is yours and I cannot be resposible for it
12:29:28 PM gr_julian: [114] julio, yes. Yes I am. Dela.
12:29:35 PM wanderercj17: what does it matter if on a whole big bang isnt bullet proof as a theory?
12:29:36 PM valke2: Here's a fact. You can say something over and over and that doesn't make it any more true than the first time you said it.
12:29:41 PM vox_speaks_now: sees pictures of modern day hiroshima and wishes we had more bombs
12:29:44 PM goddess_goldberry: [82] rowan is sexah
12:29:46 PM quaint711312: [6] valke - if there is nothing to back up a *theory* - then it's a hypothesis - NOT a theory
12:29:48 PM alper111: adopted kids are geniuses, most of them
12:29:54 PM gr_julian: [115] GG is also correct.
12:29:55 PM nakedguitarplaya: whos rowan?
12:29:55 PM waytoomuchof: [19] valke2: your ignorance speaks volumes. Thanks for playing
12:29:56 PM valke2: Ok.
12:30:00 PM gr_julian: [116] naked - c'est moi.
12:30:01 PM gremlin_net: [88] valke2: Here's a hypothesis: you'll be ignored by most if you keep evading this question.
12:30:05 PM valke2: but I'm not talking about a theory.
12:30:06 PM baronet_the3rd: I don't recall asking you to be responsible....but I appreciate the thought
12:30:06 PM goddess_goldberry: [83] naked , gr_julian = rowan
12:30:08 PM gremlin_net: [89] valke2: So, within your illiteracy, how do you rationalise the theory of gravity? Repost.
12:30:10 PM nakedguitarplaya: oh ok
12:30:16 PM nakedguitarplaya: rowans a boys name
12:30:20 PM quaint711312: [7] valke and trying to make a proven THEORY into a hypothesis doesn't make it so either
12:30:21 PM valke2: I'm talking about whether a theory, in this case the big bang theory, is a proven fact
12:30:28 PM gremlin_net: [90] valke2: So, within your illiteracy, how do you rationalise the theory of gravity? Last chance.
12:30:33 PM goddess_goldberry: [84] wow. .i am going to leave valke to gremlin, he is making my eyeballs scream
12:30:33 PM alper111: Its a perfect ecample of born vs. learned
12:30:44 PM valke2: Gremlin, what does that have to do with anything.
12:30:45 PM vox_speaks_now: 85,000 survivors of hiroshima remain alive
12:30:46 PM chainsaw_assassin: [4] terry: How is your Xenu hanging?
12:30:50 PM baronet_the3rd: how could valke2 be illiterate?....someone transalting?
12:30:54 PM peacefulgarden777: science is horrifically uknown, sort of like the twighlight zone
12:30:56 PM wanderercj17: because no one can prove GOD exhists federal
12:30:57 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: no one really rationalizes the theory of gravity tho. no one knows why it happens
12:30:58 PM quaint711312: [8] valke again - it is - it has to be - otherwise it's NOT a theory - it's a HYPOTHESIS
12:31:11 PM valke2: baronet, I'm just getting incredibly lucky on the keyboard.
12:31:12 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: theu know it has to do with mass and motion
12:31:14 PM pontiffmaximus1: vox i doubt that
12:31:17 PM baronet_the3rd: ahhhhh
12:31:18 PM wanderercj17: they have something to be pissy about
12:31:21 PM gremlin_net: [91] valke2: The theory of gravity is a theory. If theories are necessarily unproved, how do you rationalise the evident occurrence of gravity?
12:31:27 PM valke2: VelVet, a theory is based on facts
12:31:27 PM alper111: I hate my life big dud
12:31:31 PM vox_speaks_now: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/asia_pac_hiroshima_then_and_now/html/12.stm
12:31:32 PM valke2: it is not, in and of itself, a fact
12:31:32 PM nakedguitarplaya: gravity is static cling on a large scale
12:31:39 PM valke2: and certainly the big bang theory is not proven
12:31:50 PM peacefulgarden777: my theory is we "know" slightly more than nothing sort of minimalistic
12:31:54 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: no gravity is not static electicity
12:31:58 PM alper111: so fuk environment, wonder how many feel that?
12:32:06 PM nakedguitarplaya: yes it is
12:32:10 PM valke2: I did not say it was wrong.
12:32:15 PM gremlin_net: [92] valke2: To deny the fact that the big bang occurred, based on the theory explaining that, is tanatmount to denying that gravity occurs, based on the theory explaining it.
12:32:17 PM vox_speaks_now: if we would just nuke iran it would then be on the road to recovery
12:32:19 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: no gravity is not electricity.
12:32:23 PM nakedguitarplaya: ha
12:32:25 PM quaint711312: [9] valke it's a collection of facts actually - that allows for other facts to be added to it - for those facts to re-examined - researched again - made better
12:32:26 PM valke2: Gremlin, um... no.
12:32:30 PM alper111: I meant fuk born, I hate being born!
12:32:35 PM goddess_goldberry: [85] i wonder what valke thinks about evolution
12:32:41 PM peacefulgarden777: or what we really know is that we dont know much
12:32:44 PM gremlin_net: [93] valke2: So: how do you rationalise the theory of gravity, if you can't grasp how a theory could be relative to a fact?
12:32:45 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: electromagnetism has properties of gravity.
12:32:54 PM wanderercj17: valke thinks evolution is fake too
12:32:56 PM valke2: I think that there are those in this room who could benefit from a little evolution, goddess
12:32:59 PM gr_julian: [117] Goldie - I'm also editing an article for the roommate's bf, which leads me to believe that computer science majors need slapping with Strunk & White...
12:33:01 PM nakedguitarplaya: wolverine, coincidence?
12:33:02 PM the.bossofreligion1: [7]
12:33:04 PM waytoomuchof: [20] peacefulgarden777: and let me guess; your makebelieve god has all the answers?
12:33:12 PM gremlin_net: [94] valke2: Are you only just now learning that there's a theory of gravity? That there's no law of gravity?
12:33:12 PM goddess_goldberry: [86] valke that doesn't answer the question
12:33:16 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: not entirely coincidence but the reverse isn't true
12:33:23 PM valke2: Let's stick to what I said. I said that the big bang theory is not a proven fact
12:33:29 PM goddess_goldberry: [87] haha rowan, that bad?
12:33:29 PM baronet_the3rd: there are definitely those in this room who could benefit from a tiny slice of humility
12:33:29 PM nakedguitarplaya: the earth is a big magnet now hmmm
12:33:32 PM quaint711312: [10] valke - you need a good dictionary - easier to fix than claiming folks need to evolve
12:33:35 PM nakedguitarplaya: with polarities
12:33:35 PM valke2: what evidence do you or anyone else have to oppose that statement?
12:33:37 PM nakedguitarplaya: yes
12:33:38 PM vox_speaks_now: i already settled that gravity is electricity caused by a body rotating within a magnetic field
12:33:44 PM gremlin_net: [95] valke2: But the big bang event is a proved fact. Do you get that much?
12:33:46 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Every day a loudspeaker should announce: "Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen, we still don't know what the hell is going on ...... but you have a nice day."
12:33:50 PM peacefulgarden777: imagination and fantasy are at least more entertaining and more interesting than reality to say the least
12:33:51 PM valke2: no Gremlin.
12:33:56 PM quaint711312: [11] valke and you would be a liar - because that would be a HYPOTHESIS
12:34:01 PM valke2: I've never heard any scientific proposal that stated that.
12:34:06 PM waytoomuchof: [21] baronet_the3rd: bending to the will of those who speak out of ignorance is like becoming a christian or a muslim
12:34:06 PM chainsaw_assassin: [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
12:34:07 PM valke2: If you would like to provide a link...
12:34:07 PM gremlin_net: [96] valke2: Then you can go figure that out and get back to us in twenty-seven years.
12:34:11 PM gremlin_net: [97] And valke2 goes into the killfile for congenital stupidity
*** valke2 will be ignored for 9999 days.
12:34:22 PM gr_julian: [118] goldie - he doesn't use contractions at all, and he doesn't have any sort of grasp of how to make a paragraph flow, rather than stutter.
12:34:24 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: yes, gravity exists and electomagnetism exists. electromagnetism has properties of gravity. gravity has nothing to do with electrons
12:34:27 PM wanderercj17: wtg grem
12:34:28 PM quaint711312: [12] valke - we can look back to 1 X 10^-43 seconds AFTER is started
12:34:31 PM alper111: the bang was a disco-ball
12:34:31 PM alper111: "?
12:34:32 PM goddess_goldberry: [88] rowan ugg
12:34:42 PM baronet_the3rd: waytoomuch:....you assume my statement was directed at you?...how very interesting
12:34:44 PM goddess_goldberry: [89] rowan i am amazed that some people never learned how to write
12:34:49 PM wanderercj17: valke do you believe in GOD?
12:34:52 PM nakedguitarplaya: ok wolves, i concur, gravity is a mystery
12:34:53 PM vox_speaks_now: aal .. a person worthy of study is james clerk maxwell. einstein's hero
12:34:54 PM quaint711312: [13] valke the same way we *see* the light of our own star as it was 8 minutes ago
12:34:55 PM waytoomuchof: [22] valke2: no, you're stupid because you want to re-define "theory"
12:35:02 PM peacefulgarden777: inevitably are we not confined by limits?
12:35:03 PM wanderercj17: there is your problem
12:35:06 PM goddess_goldberry: [90] in architecture, they tried to make it a requirement that we write papers.. so show some sort of literacy level
12:35:06 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: gravity universally attracts all matter
12:35:24 PM quaint711312: [14] valke you stupid because you keep trying to claim a THEORY is the same as a HYPOTHESIS
12:35:28 PM alper111: lol rsputin rem. the tents?'
12:35:30 PM peacefulgarden777: or are we trapped by the paradox of never knowing them?
12:35:31 PM goddess_goldberry: [91] in my mind that was stupid.. there are other courses required in college.. i should not have to write a paper for every class
12:35:32 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: which incidentally is how we know photons have non-zero mass.
12:35:35 PM gremlin_net: [98] quaint711312: In the simplest sense, since we don't have a common word for that span of time, the process 1x10^-43 seconds after the event was the moment of the event.
12:35:36 PM vox_speaks_now: nothing except god can cause the speed of light to be exceeded
12:35:41 PM goddess_goldberry: [92] to show*
12:35:52 PM quaint711312: [15] gremlin - yes
12:35:57 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: light has infintecimal mass, but non-zero because it's affected by gravity
12:36:01 PM nakedguitarplaya: i was never good at the sciences
12:36:02 PM wanderercj17: god is the easy EXCUSE for the unexplained
12:36:10 PM nakedguitarplaya: its all french to me
12:36:12 PM waytoomuchof: [23] vox_speaks_now: please show the work proving what you've said is true
12:36:20 PM gremlin_net: [99] quaint711312: We could measure it in plancktime, I suppose; but that would only work for people who already understand this simple idea.
12:36:24 PM alper111: then they had mass tents, and Mash tents
12:36:25 PM quaint711312: [16] valke you keep making that claim - *theories are this - theories are that* and they all end with *unproven*
12:36:35 PM a_perfect_world_2008: That's because it's boring Nakedguitar
12:36:43 PM quaint711312: [17] valke - you are making that claim - and now you are trying to lie about it
12:36:46 PM nakedguitarplaya: yes boring
12:36:47 PM chainsaw_assassin: [6] "Many who remain at lower levels in the church are unaware of much of the space-opera doctrines, which mostly begin at Operating Thetan level three, or "OT III"."
12:36:57 PM vox_speaks_now: way.. go ahead and try to exceed it and then report back to the back of the class
12:37:01 PM quaint711312: [18] valke but it is
12:37:03 PM nakedguitarplaya: it was more like a big sneeze
12:37:12 PM quaint711312: [19] valke - told you - we can LOOK back at it
12:37:20 PM baronet_the3rd: I feel honored...I don't believe I;ve EVER been in a room containing so many superior intellects
12:37:21 PM wanderercj17: your gods exhhistence isnt a proven fact either valke but you still accept it so readily
12:37:22 PM waytoomuchof: [24] vox_speaks_now: I cannot. You claimed your god could. Please prove it
12:37:26 PM goddess_goldberry: [93] sigh, but theories are never proven.. they are accepted as scientific fact until they become disproven
12:37:29 PM goddess_goldberry: [94] that is just hwo it works
12:37:38 PM quaint711312: [20] valke the same way we *see* the light of our own star as it was 8 minutes ago
12:37:40 PM chainsaw_assassin: [7] "It is knowledge so dangerous, members are told, that anyone learning this material before he is ready could die."
12:37:44 PM gremlin_net: [100] Argument from Valke: You can try to prove a theory, but it isn't proved yet. So a theory is unproved. You can try to bake a cake, but it isn't baked yet. So a cake is batter.
12:37:45 PM goddess_goldberry: [95] if theories were "proven" then they would be closed off to updating and improvement
12:37:46 PM nakedguitarplaya: im dumbfounded
12:37:47 PM vox_speaks_now: way.. i just did and you missed it
12:37:47 PM gremlin_net: [101] Idiot.
12:37:48 PM baronet_the3rd: obviously
12:37:54 PM gremlin_net: [102] Illiterate fucking idiot.
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