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7:56:29 AM scienceofficerspock: [67] Since huamnity sits on the edge of self extinction, one can discount evolution as improving the survival of a species
7:56:33 AM charles_darwin_evolution: Evolution is driven by the genes "desire" to survive (of course that is not a conscious desire.... genes are mindless)
7:56:33 AM scienceofficerspock: [68] humanity
7:56:40 AM personalitywhitewashed: My personality...its just been white washed a little.
7:57:01 AM personalitywhitewashed: Still, that doesn't justify the insult of being labeled botlike.
7:57:01 AM scienceofficerspock: [69] it may eneable the survival for a while, but it's no guarnteed that it is forever
7:57:26 AM personalitywhitewashed: I think I possess better grammar and analytical thinking skills than most bots anyhow.
7:57:27 AM osirianmccloud: [32] evolution=many will die
7:57:34 AM personalitywhitewashed: Dink, yes.
7:57:41 AM sun_y_e_s: i always thought may be we are incorrect or may be the generation that left years before didnt give us enough information about them
7:57:41 AM osirianmccloud: [33] history repeats itself...history is so vain.
7:57:48 AM scienceofficerspock: [70] The urge to merge and reprodcue even exists in lifeless crystals
7:57:54 AM scienceofficerspock: [71] reproduce
7:58:04 AM charles_darwin_evolution: Genes can only survive in bodies.... That is what the gene pool means
7:58:04 AM personalitywhitewashed: It's the law of the jungle.
7:58:12 AM osirianmccloud: [34] man I am buzzed out the whazoo!
7:58:19 AM gremlin_net: [85] Back.
7:58:20 AM osirianmccloud: [35] LOLOL Austin
7:58:25 AM osirianmccloud: [36] wb Grem
7:58:26 AM personalitywhitewashed: But viral proteins seem to survive everywhere, right?
7:58:34 AM personalitywhitewashed: RNA.
7:58:37 AM gremlin_net: [86] Humanity really isn't on the edge of an extinction. The species is thriving.
7:58:38 AM sun_y_e_s: use is like i mean in what sense
7:58:40 AM osirianmccloud: [37] personalitywhitewashed, the building blocks of life
7:58:54 AM personalitywhitewashed: They truly are.
7:58:55 AM osirianmccloud: [38] chloraphli sp ck is at the top of the list
7:59:03 AM scienceofficerspock: [72] grem, a few atom bombs away from extinction
7:59:05 AM osirianmccloud: [39] amino acids
7:59:05 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [7] I have been awake 30 hours
7:59:08 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [8] almost
7:59:11 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [9] and I have diarrhea
7:59:18 AM personalitywhitewashed: Even in the midst of nuclear explosions
7:59:19 AM gremlin_net: [87] scienceofficerspock: Hardly. Homosapiens have already survived worse.
7:59:20 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [10] and I forgotted my meds
7:59:32 AM personalitywhitewashed: take your meds now
7:59:36 AM osirianmccloud: [40] what about natural nuclear explosions?
7:59:38 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [11] gremlin_net knight_of_baawa is campaigning for Ron Paul
7:59:43 AM osirianmccloud: [41] I think it's called natural fission
7:59:44 AM rafael_aloshua: [2] You must be comfy red?capitalist
7:59:49 AM scienceofficerspock: [73] I am glad you are optimistic grem
7:59:52 AM personalitywhitewashed: Natural nuclear explosions make them stronger.
8:00:04 AM gremlin_net: [88] scienceofficerspock: Better still, I'm educated.
8:00:10 AM charles_darwin_evolution: What about the super volcano under Yellowstone Park
8:00:12 AM personalitywhitewashed: Every disaster improves their capabilities...evolution observed.
8:00:12 AM sun_y_e_s: there are many things in living world which is like if ppl know about them is like unbelievable but
8:00:27 AM gremlin_net: [89] charles_darwin_evolution: That would be one of the worse things humans have already survived.
8:00:34 AM scienceofficerspock: [74] ok, then you realize there are enough nukes on Earth to be used on every city ten times
8:00:43 AM personalitywhitewashed: I thought science was trying to weaken that volcano.
8:00:46 AM scienceofficerspock: [75] How educated are you grem?
8:00:52 AM satans_best_assassin: [161] gremlin @ less 4 times
8:00:54 AM osirianmccloud: [42] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor
8:01:04 AM gremlin_net: [90] scienceofficerspock: You'd have to nuke more than the cities.
8:01:07 AM sun_y_e_s: having something is like something and to use anything is always a different matter
8:01:25 AM charles_darwin_evolution: Has science got the technology to weaken that volcano? ...I doubt it at our current level of technology
8:01:29 AM scienceofficerspock: [76] grem, explain how nuking 2500 cities would not be a global disater
8:01:35 AM osirianmccloud: [43] so most likely even if the huemen do nuke them selfs life will go on... indeed.. there is life after Humen
8:01:37 AM personalitywhitewashed: Every other year I get hit with some kind of cold it not only makes the virus that causes it stronger, it makes me stronger as well.
8:01:38 AM sun_y_e_s: i mean i always use to hate ppl for something they say power is what they possess but its all lack of anything
8:01:38 AM scienceofficerspock: [77] disaster
8:01:40 AM gremlin_net: [91] scienceofficerspock: Why? I never said it wouldn't be.
8:01:58 AM scienceofficerspock: [78] Ok grem, never mind
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8:02:54 AM personalitywhitewashed: I am not sure about that, scienceofficer.
8:02:55 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [12] did I get auto-iggied by gremlin_net or sumfin?
8:03:01 AM rafael_aloshua: [3] Adquired inmunity
8:03:07 AM gremlin_net: [92] red_baiting_capitalist_pig: Nope. The room timed out.
8:03:07 AM personalitywhitewashed: That sounds like the words uttered by the massively inflated human ego.
8:03:08 AM rafael_aloshua: [4] My spelling sucks
8:03:09 AM sun_y_e_s: life is a constant and there is nothing which is called amusement and if you want some amusement why dont you want to amuse other ppl visit some amusement park
8:03:13 AM satans_best_assassin: [163] well even a M-E-E couldn't wipe out all of humans on Earth.
8:03:15 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [13] ah ok
8:03:15 AM scienceofficerspock: [80] I am not certain about it either, it's possible
8:03:24 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [14] then did you see the post I directed to you?
8:03:28 AM gremlin_net: [93] scienceofficerspock: You're not certain about what?
8:03:30 AM personalitywhitewashed: I still think little bacterias could survive.
8:03:37 AM osirianmccloud: [44] scienceofficerspock, nuclear events, asteroid impacts, volcanic eruptions..to name a few have also ruled the earth, a nuclear bomb is just mans contribution to an already naturally occuring event
8:03:41 AM gremlin_net: [94] red_baiting_capitalist_pig: About BAAWA? Yeah.
8:03:55 AM scienceofficerspock: [81] total,permanent annilation of all earth life
8:04:01 AM scienceofficerspock: [82] by nuclear war
8:04:13 AM gremlin_net: [95] scienceofficerspock: It wouldn't exterminate all life.
8:04:21 AM sun_y_e_s: ppl who say about ego is like so much full of that thing
8:04:24 AM rafael_aloshua: [5] bacterias can survive and viruses are the oldest organism on earth,.. i think.
8:04:32 AM personalitywhitewashed: Earth would have to be permenantly altered to the extent it would change it into a planet like Mercury.
8:04:35 AM personalitywhitewashed: Or Pluto.
8:04:47 AM charles_darwin_evolution: I* cannot see even a full scale nuclear war destrying all life... Some pockets of life would survive I think
8:04:50 AM gremlin_net: [96] personalitywhitewashed: Even that might not do it. Extremophiles would still thrive.
8:04:52 AM scienceofficerspock: [83] grem,i hope not, but, if a world wide nuclear war happens, it won't promote life
8:04:53 AM osirianmccloud: [45] personalitywhitewashed, I don't think man has control over that
8:04:57 AM osirianmccloud: [46] man thinks he do thou
8:05:00 AM osirianmccloud: [47] uh huh
8:05:00 AM personalitywhitewashed: Gremlin, I agree.
8:05:08 AM scienceofficerspock: [84] gremlin, maybe
8:05:09 AM osirianmccloud: [48] umhmm
8:05:15 AM gremlin_net: [97] scienceofficerspock: Actually, it would. All extinct events promote the surviving species.
8:05:24 AM scienceofficerspock: [85] extremophiles will not forever survive
8:05:32 AM personalitywhitewashed: Life is so hardy the simplest organisms can survive just about anything...they even exist on commets and astroids.
8:05:32 AM sun_y_e_s: i would like to comment on something about nuclear things
8:05:41 AM scienceofficerspock: [86] ok grem, nulcear wars are good for life, you win
8:05:48 AM scienceofficerspock: [87] I am always wrong
8:05:54 AM gremlin_net: [98] scienceofficerspock: So, now your argument is essentially that, if something kills all life, all life will be dead? That's a bit of a given.
8:05:56 AM osirianmccloud: [49] man suffers a conscious
8:06:00 AM personalitywhitewashed: not good for life, but simple organisms might survive it.
8:06:02 AM sun_y_e_s: why ppl who possess them use them or not
8:06:10 AM personalitywhitewashed: complex life would perish.
8:06:19 AM osirianmccloud: [50] nods off
8:06:21 AM gremlin_net: [99] scienceofficerspock: The trick is identifying something capable of killing all life. I'm an expert on this, and I can't think of anything able to do it.
8:06:23 AM charles_darwin_evolution: I have a nuclear weapon in my garden shed... oh, my mistake it's a lawn mower
8:06:45 AM scienceofficerspock: [88] gremlin, red giant phase of the sun will exterminate all life on earth
8:06:45 AM osirianmccloud: [51] Grem, total inceneration?
8:06:47 AM personalitywhitewashed: Its like trying to get rid of insects...impossible
8:07:06 AM gremlin_net: [100] scienceofficerspock: Probably. But that gives some species five billion years to move to a new planet.
8:07:07 AM satans_best_assassin: [164] well gremlin another thela would do it
8:07:18 AM gremlin_net: [101] osirianmccloud: Extremophiles again
8:07:22 AM sun_y_e_s: there is nothing called some sense i mean to me it is also linked with things ppl say after life and after life is always linked with something in relation to some religion or may be religions
8:07:22 AM scienceofficerspock: [89] we have more than enough nukes to exterminate all life on earth if all released in a day
8:07:24 AM plethora_of_apathy: hallo.
8:07:26 AM gremlin_net: [102] satans_best_assassin: Maybe. Maybe not.
8:07:36 AM rafael_aloshua: [6] hi plethora
8:07:37 AM gremlin_net: [103] scienceofficerspock: Evidently not.
8:07:42 AM plethora_of_apathy: hellew, nightlock.
8:07:52 AM personalitywhitewashed: do we have enough nukes to blow the planet completely apart?
8:07:56 AM scienceofficerspock: [90] the oceans will die, radiation will poison all life even on the bottom of the ocean
8:08:08 AM gremlin_net: [104] scienceofficerspock: The Maastrichtian impact was teratonnes. Frogs survived.
8:08:11 AM rafael_aloshua: [7] and how are u plethora?
8:08:12 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [15] The Bible recommends that we "comfort the feebleminded".
8:08:18 AM personalitywhitewashed: even without oceans life can exist
8:08:18 AM plethora_of_apathy: well! yourself?
8:08:19 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [16] Not a possible task, in yahoo chat, mind yo
8:08:20 AM gremlin_net: [105] personalitywhitewashed: Not even close.
8:08:21 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [17] u
8:08:22 AM scienceofficerspock: [91] the oceasn could freeze solid
8:08:26 AM scienceofficerspock: [92] oceans
8:08:27 AM osirianmccloud: [52] Grem, no, total* inceneration, all water vaporized, everything incenerated.
8:08:32 AM plethora_of_apathy: osi. .
8:08:36 AM scienceofficerspock: [93] it's within the power of the human race now
8:08:39 AM osirianmccloud: [53] Latifa
8:08:41 AM rafael_aloshua: [8] Im pretty good , just got back from the hosp so im a bit tired.
8:08:46 AM gremlin_net: [106] scienceofficerspock: I don't see how, granting that the oceans are boiling from beneath, in places.
8:08:47 AM sun_y_e_s: having is something in any given circumstances but developing it like your own is certainly different
8:08:57 AM scienceofficerspock: [94] over 10,000 nukes, each one the size of 1000 Hiroshimas
8:08:57 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [18] rafael_aloshua did you give birth?
8:09:00 AM plethora_of_apathy: ah.. well, i hope you feel better, soon.
8:09:00 AM plethora_of_apathy: heh.
8:09:14 AM personalitywhitewashed: don't step into the boiling oceans....
8:09:18 AM rafael_aloshua: [9] lol im not sick , im doing my fellowship, im a medical student
8:09:27 AM scienceofficerspock: [95] the oceans can freeze solid, they have before
8:09:28 AM rafael_aloshua: [10] but thank
8:09:29 AM gremlin_net: [107] osirianmccloud: I'm not sure how that could happen. The sun expanding would be the only option I'm aware of. And, again, that's five billion years away.
8:09:31 AM plethora_of_apathy: oh! i am glad. ha-ha. bonne chance, then.
8:09:34 AM plethora_of_apathy: of course.
8:09:40 AM gremlin_net: [108] scienceofficerspock: Really? When?
8:09:44 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [19] rafael_aloshua oh
8:09:51 AM charles_darwin_evolution: The sun would become a red giant
8:09:54 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [20] rafael_aloshua my next guess was rinoplasty
8:09:56 AM gremlin_net: [109] I musta been sick that day in paleontology school.
8:10:05 AM scienceofficerspock: [96] Not all oceans everywhere, during the ice ages
8:10:05 AM personalitywhitewashed: but not supernova
8:10:09 AM plethora_of_apathy: laugh. rinoplasty.
8:10:20 AM plethora_of_apathy: i would have considered plastic surgery, were i any close to optimism.
8:10:23 AM plethora_of_apathy: but, eh. i am not!
8:10:23 AM rafael_aloshua: [11] jeez thanks for the wishfull thinking red_capitalist
8:10:29 AM gremlin_net: [110] scienceofficerspock: The ice ages never froze an entire ocean.
8:10:30 AM sun_y_e_s: how do you assess ppl
8:10:31 AM osirianmccloud: [54] Grem, well not in an instant, I can;t think of anything for that scenario either, but over even a corse of a year both planitary and solar activity incenerating the planet
8:10:35 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [21] rafael_aloshua my wife is going to start school to become a physician assistant
8:10:43 AM scienceofficerspock: [97] parts of oceans are still forzen
8:10:47 AM scienceofficerspock: [98] frozen
8:10:47 AM personalitywhitewashed: The waters around the equator stay warmer. Always.
8:10:51 AM gremlin_net: [111] osirianmccloud: I really doubt it. Nothing I'm aware of could do that.
8:11:00 AM rafael_aloshua: [12] red_capitalist , is she doing that as a pre-med course?
8:11:08 AM personalitywhitewashed: Near the poles, scienceofficer.
8:11:14 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [22] rafael_aloshua she wants to be a doctor, but doesn't want to go through the residency
8:11:23 AM scienceofficerspock: [99] The point is, humans have the power to ruin life on earth as we know it
8:11:25 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [23] and doesn't want the paperwork nightmare after
8:11:29 AM gremlin_net: [112] scienceofficerspock: So, we've gone from oceans freezing, to parts of an ocean. And they say goalpost tectonics are only a theory....
8:11:34 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [24] rafael_aloshua right now, she is a medical assistant
8:11:35 AM plethora_of_apathy: my e-crush is on-line. i should pretend that i am EXTREMELY bored with myself, and, my existence. i hope he offers pity and talks to me. .
8:11:43 AM personalitywhitewashed: Humans have the power to ruin themselves and other species.
8:11:45 AM sun_y_e_s: they say science as if they are like some sort of something
8:11:48 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [25] rafael_aloshua we are moving to New Hampshire, and she will start school there
8:11:54 AM scienceofficerspock: [100] oceans do freeze
8:12:03 AM rafael_aloshua: [13] red_capitilist; in the states you can stay as a general doctor?
8:12:04 AM osirianmccloud: [55] Latifa, beh, ignore him, make him chase you
8:12:12 AM personalitywhitewashed: I feel so botlike suddenly. I am turning into an android.
8:12:15 AM sun_y_e_s: you say freeze what
8:12:24 AM baba_soni_9924891600: Any 1 like chat c 2 c...........
8:12:27 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [26] rafael_aloshua ok. I talked to an aussie doctor, and I had to explain it to him too
8:12:31 AM plethora_of_apathy: i do, osi. i do, oh i do. he is so shy, however. i do not think he will ever get along with me.
8:12:37 AM charles_darwin_evolution: you sound like flink
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8:12:44 AM osirianmccloud: [56] Aw
8:12:44 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [27] a physician assistant goes through med school, but no residency
8:12:46 AM gremlin_net: [113] scienceofficerspock: You really don't know what you're talking about. Which is okay; few people do.
8:12:47 AM gremlin_net: [114] But stumbling into a conversation with a palaeontologist to hand out your guesses is a bit silly.
8:12:47 AM plethora_of_apathy: laugh. i hope he does. i'd raise europa up and down till i find him.
8:12:50 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [28] and thus isn't REALLY a doctor
8:13:01 AM rafael_aloshua: [14] ohh
8:13:05 AM plethora_of_apathy: there is an unreal doktor. how fancy.
8:13:08 AM scienceofficerspock: [101] I said human life is on the brink of extinction, your defense was extremephiles will survive
8:13:12 AM scienceofficerspock: [102] oh someones
8:13:15 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [29] a Physician assistant can prescribe some meds
8:13:15 AM plethora_of_apathy: doctor. this is english.
8:13:18 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [30] but not all
8:13:32 AM sun_y_e_s: ppl are like reduntant chief regardless of anything
8:13:32 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [31] rafael_aloshua I don't know all of the particulars
8:13:42 AM osirianmccloud: [57] OK I'm gona take a nap, bbl
8:13:44 AM rafael_aloshua: [15] Well if she likes general medicine , and doesnt want to go through alot of hardships, maybe she can go into family medicine.
8:13:45 AM gremlin_net: [115] scienceofficerspock: Reread it. I said that homosapiens will survive. Well, at least until they evolve into a separate species.
8:13:51 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [32] rafael_aloshua but when I was talking to the aussie doctor, it sounded completely foreign to him
8:13:59 AM plethora_of_apathy: are you an american, nightlock?
8:14:03 AM scienceofficerspock: [103] gremlin, i doubt you can prove all out nucleear war is not an extinction event
8:14:10 AM rafael_aloshua: [16] yeah , but im doing medicine in dominican republic.
8:14:11 AM scienceofficerspock: [104] for the human race
8:14:17 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [33] rafael_aloshua I see
8:14:20 AM personalitywhitewashed: it could be.
8:14:23 AM gremlin_net: [116] scienceofficerspock: You're leaping all over the place with your assertions. Humans will die out; oceans will freeze and kill everything. I'm responding to whatever's newest.
8:14:42 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [34] I heard a school bus is going to crash into the earth next month
8:14:43 AM charles_darwin_evolution: I don't think Humans are evolving much now... That is because natures slow evolutionary procceses are being outstripped and overtaken by man mad technology
8:14:45 AM gremlin_net: [117] scienceofficerspock: You're right: I can't prove a negative. That's why I don't tend to claim that deities don't exist.
8:14:52 AM scienceofficerspock: [105] I am speaking of humans and most life forms on earth
8:15:07 AM gremlin_net: [118] scienceofficerspock: What I can do is notice that humans have already survived worse things.
8:15:07 AM scienceofficerspock: [106] not bacteria in thermal vents
8:15:17 AM personalitywhitewashed: humans are stuck with this planet.
8:15:18 AM sun_y_e_s: yes i never found anything interesting i mean common is like always common and special is like always special but again what is the difference
8:15:29 AM rafael_aloshua: [17] red_capitlist yeah I never heard of that, but with new laws and insurance laws , they are prolly making it more difficult
8:15:38 AM gremlin_net: [119] scienceofficerspock: Occasionally you're talking about 'most life'; other times, you're talking about 'all life'. Pick one and stay there.
8:15:41 AM personalitywhitewashed: Lets all talk about humans like they are inanimate objects.
8:15:49 AM rafael_aloshua: [18] they added to more exams
8:15:57 AM rafael_aloshua: [19] in the step 2 , you got cs and ck
8:16:01 AM gremlin_net: [120] personalitywhitewashed: Most of them just about are. Homo sofaensis.
8:16:06 AM rafael_aloshua: [20] and when your done with step 3, theres another exam:/
8:16:10 AM scienceofficerspock: [107] gremlin, explain 10,000 x 1000 hiroshimas has occured already in human history
8:16:20 AM gremlin_net: [121] scienceofficerspock: BC70,000.
8:16:35 AM charles_darwin_evolution: I don't think Humans are evolving much now... That is because natures slow evolutionary procceses are being outstripped and overtaken by man mad technology
8:16:49 AM charles_darwin_evolution: made
8:16:56 AM sun_y_e_s: curbing something which is wrong may be the right thing but killing innocent ppl is like another thing
8:16:59 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [35] crazy
8:17:01 AM scienceofficerspock: [108] gremlin, thats 10,000,000 Hiroshimas?
8:17:04 AM gremlin_net: [122] charles_darwin_evolution: Humans are evolving daily. Even if it's just restructuring DNA to ignore last year's flu.
8:17:14 AM gremlin_net: [123] scienceofficerspock: It was a global nuclear winter for years.
8:17:19 AM personalitywhitewashed: thermonuclearwar
8:17:23 AM sun_y_e_s: i see hiroshima that like
8:17:52 AM scienceofficerspock: [109] grem, what was the mega tonnage of the explosion of the tertiary impactor
8:18:04 AM sdamchoe: tibet person lookink girl
8:18:11 AM gremlin_net: [124] scienceofficerspock: Which one?
8:18:21 AM scienceofficerspock: [110] the extinction event
8:18:21 AM satans_best_assassin: [165] with modern travel technology humans gene pool has NEVER been Healthier
8:18:23 AM personalitywhitewashed: An explosion might get rid of some of these bots.
8:18:25 AM rafael_aloshua: [21] red_capitalist, what bach's did your wife do ?
8:18:27 AM sun_y_e_s: anyway its like some burning ass developing into something else
8:18:40 AM gremlin_net: [125] scienceofficerspock: I give up. You tell me. Or at least tell me which thing you're talking about.
8:18:53 AM scienceofficerspock: [111] gremlin, 70,000 years ago
8:19:01 AM scienceofficerspock: [112] you referenced it
8:19:04 AM scienceofficerspock: [113] that one
8:19:08 AM gremlin_net: [126] scienceofficerspock: I'm not aware of an impact seventy thousand years ago.
8:19:30 AM rowan_ste_julian* is back
8:19:31 AM rowan_ste_julian* (away) (busy) "at the end of my rope"
8:19:32 AM gremlin_net: [127] scienceofficerspock: I'm aware of a supervolcano. Maybe that's what you're guessing about.
8:19:35 AM satans_best_assassin: [166] Gremlin the on in navada but it wasn't a very big one
8:19:36 AM scienceofficerspock: [114] this? gremlin_net: scienceofficerspock: BC70,000.
8:19:37 AM sun_y_e_s: you referenced something dating back to 70000 years
8:19:41 AM satans_best_assassin: [167] one*
8:20:19 AM gremlin_net: [128] sun_y_e_s: Yeah. And he grabbed that and filled in the gaps with his imagination. Think that might happen a lot?
8:20:20 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [36] rafael_aloshua none yet. Right now, she is a medical assistant
8:20:37 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [37] which is a vocational technical type education
8:20:42 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [38] but she did go to college
8:20:46 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [39] long time ago
8:20:47 AM satans_best_assassin: [168] Gremlin the one in Nevada (only a 1.5 mile accross) wasn't that big for an impact
8:20:54 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [40] archeaology
8:20:55 AM sun_y_e_s: you are like a heartful person and i like that
8:21:08 AM gremlin_net: [129] satans_best_assassin: We get impacts several times a year. Few are anything close to extinction events.
8:21:13 AM sun_y_e_s: though its like something wtf you are
8:21:16 AM rafael_aloshua: [22] oh, im at a international college. when im done i get to take the medical board exams in the states.
8:21:20 AM rafael_aloshua: [23] through kaplan
8:21:25 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [41] cool
8:21:42 AM gremlin_net: [130] Even the volcano wasn't really an extinction event. Not on the level I'm used to, anyway. Humans survived it, obviously enough.
8:21:42 AM scienceofficerspock: [115] Ok, does anyone know the meg tomage of the big impactor or a super volcanoe? I don't.
8:21:48 AM scienceofficerspock: [116] tonnage
8:22:09 AM sun_y_e_s: you may like anyone for nothing or do you need reasons for anything
8:22:17 AM scienceofficerspock: [117] I think all current nukes would be much more powerful than that
8:22:21 AM charles_darwin_evolution: It depends on the size of the Super Volcano
8:22:23 AM stoic_hacker* [1] hi zsa & spock & reb & mary & hunter & hope & hal & grem & AAL & all
8:22:29 AM scienceofficerspock: [118] samiam
8:22:31 AM gremlin_net: [131] scienceofficerspock: Do you. How powerful do you think they would be.
8:22:43 AM satans_best_assassin: [170] CDE the last one to go off was in Java
8:22:48 AM sun_y_e_s: ppl are like one against the state
8:22:52 AM rafael_aloshua: [24] well see u guys in a bit i need sleep
8:22:59 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [42] see you rafy
8:23:00 AM charles_darwin_evolution: yes Satan
8:23:05 AM satans_best_assassin: [171] 200,000 years ago
8:23:07 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [43] supervolcanoes SUCK
8:23:15 AM scienceofficerspock: [119] grem, there are stats about Mt St Helens, nothing close to a new H bomb
8:23:20 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [44] or, maybe they blow
8:23:37 AM sun_y_e_s: this is a wrong thing and no notion of anything ppl are incorrect their are like so much of everything going on earth which is not right
8:23:38 AM charles_darwin_evolution: Mt St Helens is a wimp next to a super volcano
*** The line is too long to send after 'INFData', make it shorter.
8:23:51 AM scienceofficerspock: [120] Modern H-bombs are 20 mega tons to 60 meg tons
8:24:01 AM gremlin_net: [132] scienceofficerspock: I see. I understand your argument now.
8:24:02 AM gremlin_net: [133] 'Homosapiens will certainly wipe themselves out because, so far as you can guess, nukes might be more energetic than volcanoes.'
8:24:08 AM gremlin_net: [134] I remain unconvinced by this guess.
8:24:12 AM satans_best_assassin: [172] Mt St Hellens was the popping of a zit next to a super volcano
8:24:33 AM sun_y_e_s: ppl wih anything has like so many options i mean using is like destoying yourself
8:24:47 AM scienceofficerspock: [121] all nukes goin off in a short period of time will be hundreds of super volcanoes
8:24:56 AM gremlin_net: [135] scienceofficerspock: Show me the model on that.
8:25:01 AM scienceofficerspock: [122] in my estimation
8:25:07 AM stoic_hacker: [2] Back in the 70s, it was common to believe we were destined to wipe ourselves out. But not anymore
8:25:12 AM scienceofficerspock: [123] just mt guess
8:25:15 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [45] mount st helens released 24 megatons of thermal energy
8:25:20 AM scienceofficerspock: [124] do the math
8:25:22 AM gremlin_net: [136] scienceofficerspock: Your estimation? You're a nuclear physicist and a vulcanologist?
8:25:30 AM jamiefromscotland: Hi Brothers and sisters
8:25:33 AM scienceofficerspock: [125] gremlin, no, are you?
8:25:34 AM stoic_hacker: [3] hi jamie
8:25:53 AM gremlin_net: [137] scienceofficerspock: I'm a palaeontologist. I know what species can and can't and do and don't survive.
8:26:04 AM sun_y_e_s: you see ppl may be the correct one but i always can fault with anyone
8:26:09 AM satans_best_assassin: [173] red a super volcano is larger then all the explosives humans have every used by a fact more then 10
8:26:10 AM stoic_hacker: [4] Jamie, I'll talk in the room, but I don't do PMs.
8:26:11 AM jamiefromscotland: yadgar are you a muslim ?
8:26:16 AM satans_best_assassin: [174] factor
8:26:17 AM scienceofficerspock: [126] gremlin, not in an all out nuclear war, no one is certain
8:26:19 AM jamiefromscotland: kool stoic
8:26:21 AM stoic_hacker: [5] THe problem with PMs is people always fall tragically in love with me
8:26:27 AM jamiefromscotland:
8:26:32 AM jamiefromscotland: are u male ?
8:26:41 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [46] my estimation is that 56/57ths of the world's nukes going off would be the equivilant of one (1) ea. supervolcano
8:26:48 AM stoic_hacker: [6] The question on the floor seems to be "is a volcano more energetic than a nuclear bomb". That seems like it should be easily answeres
8:26:57 AM satans_best_assassin: [175] red no even close
8:26:59 AM gremlin_net: [138] scienceofficerspock: So, humans will certainly kill themselves, but not certainly. That's clever. I'm gonna use that next year, betting on every football team to win the superbowl.
8:27:00 AM satans_best_assassin: [176] not
8:27:11 AM sun_y_e_s: there come this thing who should be like the holders of some nuke things
8:27:15 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [47] satans_best_assassin (I am mocking scienceofficerspock)
8:27:17 AM scienceofficerspock: [127] ok, then whats the power of a super volcanoe in mega tons?
8:27:30 AM scienceofficerspock: [128] show the mega tons
8:27:32 AM satans_best_assassin: [177] ah red I don't see anti-scienceofficer
8:27:36 AM gremlin_net: [139] stoic_hacker: Not exactly. The question really is whether a supervolcano is deadlier than all nukes combined.
8:27:38 AM jamiefromscotland: what are all of your religions may i ask ?
8:27:38 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [48] oh hee hee
8:28:02 AM sun_y_e_s: i mean if you look in somewhere around the globe who are like the keepers of anything or like the stealers of anything
8:28:02 AM louafi_f77: hi
8:28:08 AM jamiefromscotland: hello welcome back
8:28:11 AM beingswhothinktheyarehumans: SPEAK ON WHAT IS IT TO BE HUMAN READ WWW.WHATISCIVILIZATION.COM
8:28:14 AM scienceofficerspock: [129] oh hamster is a fundy christian creatard
8:28:16 AM jamiefromscotland: the wise woman is here
- beingswhothinktheyarehumans will be ignored for 9999 days.
8:28:32 AM sun_y_e_s: you dont fuck wise ppl
8:28:34 AM scienceofficerspock: [130] satans_best_assassin is creatard
8:28:34 AM gremlin_net: [140] scienceofficerspock: You're joking, right?
8:28:43 AM charles_darwin_evolution: The question of all nukes combined is fairly meaningless... Because it is unlikely even in a nuclear war that all nukes combined would be used
8:28:54 AM stoic_hacker: [8] But that seems to be a time-average
8:28:55 AM scienceofficerspock: [131] gremlin, just pay back
8:29:01 AM gremlin_net: [141] charles_darwin_evolution: Yeah. But, for the sake of the paradigm of hunchwork....
8:29:05 AM personalitywhitewashed: satans is atomic hamster?
8:29:07 AM scienceofficerspock: [132] whats the mega tons of a super volcanoe?
8:29:07 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [49] stoic_hacker mega watts?
8:29:11 AM satans_best_assassin: [178] CDE @ one place @ the same time
8:29:13 AM gremlin_net: [142] personalitywhitewashed: I think so.
8:29:13 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [50] that doesn't seem a lot
8:29:21 AM stoic_hacker: [9] to compare with a nuclear bomb, we need the instantaneous energy released in a single eruption, I guess
8:29:26 AM jamiefromscotland: yadgar what country are you from
8:29:28 AM charles_darwin_evolution: yes Satan
8:29:32 AM sun_y_e_s: i mean something is always a wrong thing i mean whether it was some evolution or how ppl live
8:29:57 AM satans_best_assassin: [179] well a super valcano is 10,000 times bigger then my st hellens do the math
8:30:01 AM gremlin_net: [143] stoic_hacker: Yeah. scienceofficerspock is obsessing over megatonnes, which is apples and oranges to vulcanology. I'm looking at the actual effects, since those might matter.
8:30:04 AM jamiefromscotland:
8:30:07 AM satans_best_assassin: [180] MT St Hellens
8:30:16 AM stoic_hacker: [10] That's another consideration
8:30:30 AM jamiefromscotland: Audrey are you the lady in the picture ?
8:30:50 AM charles_darwin_evolution: Yellowstone will go up one day... it's inevitable... That build up of energy is like a champagne cork ready to pop
8:30:51 AM jamiefromscotland: you are 64 ur good for your age
8:30:55 AM gremlin_net: [144] For all practical purposes, a single nuke could be yottatonnes but in the middle of the Pacific; the tonnage would be largely immaterial to the effects.
8:30:57 AM stoic_hacker: [11] But I think if you are considering nuclear winter, bombs and volcanoes both throw up a lot of dust. I would guess the bombs throw up more dust per unit energy
8:31:02 AM jamiefromscotland: that is true
8:31:06 AM jamiefromscotland: we are all one
8:31:06 AM sun_y_e_s: ppl who are like some muslims i mean the most least of any religion in the earth not for something because of its faith but they try to create something like everywhere as ppl are deprived of anything
8:31:11 AM sun_y_e_s: wait
8:31:19 AM gremlin_net: [145] stoic_hacker: I'd guess the opposite. Modern nukes are airbursters.
8:31:24 AM satans_best_assassin: [181] Mt St Hellens is only 1 of the 150 valcanos that will go off when yellowstone pops it's cork
8:32:02 AM satans_best_assassin: [182] and they are all 10,000 times smaller the yellowstone itself
8:32:21 AM sun_y_e_s: its about the logical earthology of ppl who are like not well read to stoic them for some balance when in reality they make use of ppl like you in bulk
8:32:34 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [51] where can we hide when it goes?
8:32:35 AM jamiefromscotland: All religions lead to one God. The Almighty ONE !
8:32:52 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [52] jamiefromscotland oh you are such a card!
8:33:14 AM gremlin_net: [146] Of course, it might be my fault that megatonnes came into this; I mentioned that the Maastrichtian impact was in the teratonnes. Not that it was quite the point.
8:33:23 AM sun_y_e_s: and yes ofcourse i say palestine is like a home to them do execute ppl who executed them from their land
8:33:32 AM jamiefromscotland: We are all of the same race here on Earth. Brothers and sisters we are no different. We will go to the same Heaven
8:33:43 AM stoic_hacker: [12] Well, anyway, the comparison is reasonable. THey both do similar damage
8:33:46 AM gremlin_net: [147] jamiefromscotland: Nonsequitur.
8:33:48 AM jamiefromscotland: sorry ?
8:34:00 AM the_net_pal: heaven is on earth
8:34:04 AM sun_y_e_s: you cant desert some country just for the sake of saying you are like the superior one
8:34:12 AM satans_best_assassin: [183] gremlin I know but he wants numbers that's why I pointed out that yellowstone is 10,000 times bigger then Mt St Hellens so if he wanted to do the math
8:34:13 AM gremlin_net: [148] jamiefromscotland: That the human animal is a single species doesn't have much bearing on the mythology of heaven.
8:34:42 AM satans_best_assassin: [184] Gremlin and that if Yellowstone goes it will not be going alone
8:34:48 AM jamiefromscotland: Everything that had a life here on Earth , has an afterlife in Heaven
8:35:00 AM gremlin_net: [149] jamiefromscotland: I don't believe you.
8:35:04 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [53] gremlin_net although I admire your retorts, I like mine better
8:35:09 AM jamiefromscotland: That is your opinion
8:35:11 AM sun_y_e_s: i openly abuse ppl who talk like that
8:35:14 AM the_net_pal: there is not life after or before unless u know life of present
8:35:15 AM sun_y_e_s: or walk like that
8:35:17 AM satans_best_assassin: [185] every valcano in the North West USA and South West Canada will join in
8:35:20 AM gremlin_net: [150] satans_best_assassin: Yellowstone's not that big. It probably won't affect the entire US, let alone the planet.
8:35:30 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [54] satans_best_assassin you mean, like a big volcano party?
8:35:36 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [55] members only?
8:35:38 AM personalitywhitewashed: who wants the world to explode, raise your hands?
8:35:43 AM satans_best_assassin: [186] Gremlin I didn't get to that point
8:35:44 AM stoic_hacker: [13] Consequences of Using Nuclear Weapons http://tinyurl.com/2l4dm5
8:36:11 AM jamiefromscotland: you people are brainwashed
8:36:17 AM satans_best_assassin: [187] but it is something that can show him a small scale of what a M-E-E is
8:36:19 AM personalitywhitewashed: tinyurl is the new myspace
8:36:20 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [56] jamiefromscotland oh you kid!
8:36:23 AM mars_axis: [1] 'ello mateys
8:36:28 AM jamiefromscotland:
8:36:33 AM mars_axis: [2] ahoy
8:36:38 AM sun_y_e_s: there is something called like someone said genes but i dont know why ppl want to die or ever do something is it like a solace to prove something or
8:36:48 AM gremlin_net: [151] stoic_hacker: They're only projecting into the megatonnes? That's kinda sad.
8:36:50 AM stoic_hacker: [14] Ha! There's a good point, that paper says a nuclear war would cause volcanic eruptions
8:36:59 AM jamiefromscotland: Audrey has such a beautiful voice. Is the accent canadian Audrey ?
8:37:02 AM stoic_hacker: [15] So that would seem to make the nuclear war worse than the volcanoes alone
8:37:10 AM personalitywhitewashed: why not just bomb a volcano?
8:37:24 AM stoic_hacker: [16] There was another paper suggesting using a nuclear bomb to stop a volcano
8:37:33 AM satans_best_assassin: [188] the hugh snow falls of the late 1880 was from Crackatoah
8:37:40 AM satans_best_assassin: [189] was do to
8:37:41 AM gremlin_net: In summary, it can be seen that if a nuclear explosive force of 100 megatons was used it could destroy civilization. It could turn our world into a dark, cold, radioactively polluted planet with few survivors.
8:38:03 AM sun_y_e_s: i like ppl who write good things i mean something which you can understand
8:38:09 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [57] stoic_hacker there was some kook in the 1960s who wanted to send nukes to the moon to get moon rocks, instead of spending the money to send men up there to collect them
8:38:16 AM gremlin_net: [153] Looks like the experts in the field also predict 'few survivors', not 'total extinction'. And they even know the megatonnes.
8:38:23 AM satans_best_assassin: [190] gremlin so it will take only 3 Czars? I don't think so
8:38:28 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [58] he wanted to blow pieces off the moon, and then we could pick the moon rocks up out of our back yards
8:38:40 AM satans_best_assassin: [191] well 3-5 czers
8:38:43 AM stoic_hacker: [17] Oh, I think that's certainly true, grem. Total extinction is very difficult to achieve
8:38:51 AM scienceofficerspock: [133] comparison to asteroids in explosive force is only part of the analysis
8:38:55 AM satans_best_assassin: [192] czars*
8:38:57 AM mars_axis: [3] Krakatoa?
8:38:59 AM sun_y_e_s: who is like czar
8:39:03 AM stoic_hacker: [18] red_baiting, I can believe that. It probably would have worked too
8:39:09 AM scienceofficerspock: [134] or super vocanoes,since none have radioactive fall out
8:39:14 AM satans_best_assassin: [193] Mars yeah a Vaclano they blow up in 1882
8:39:15 AM gremlin_net: [154] stoic_hacker: That was kinda my opening line. I'm an expert on extinction, and I can't think of a means to kill off all homosapiens.
8:39:19 AM satans_best_assassin: [194] that
8:39:19 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [59] in a away, it would have been cool
8:39:23 AM gremlin_net: [155] stoic_hacker: Not a practical means, anyway.
8:39:40 AM satans_best_assassin: [195] gremlin didn't you try with zombies?
8:39:44 AM scienceofficerspock: [135] could all the radiation be survived by all life forms on Earth?
8:39:46 AM satans_best_assassin: [196] and fail too
8:39:51 AM scienceofficerspock: [136] No one can prove that
8:39:53 AM mars_axis: [4] Satan, yeah, I think it blocked out the sun
8:39:55 AM sun_y_e_s: i mean who can hack something when their is like nothing to hack
8:39:58 AM stoic_hacker: [19] If you wanted to kill all humans, I think you'd do a lot better with poison than nuclear weapons
8:40:04 AM gremlin_net: [156] My best hopes for human extinction would be a pandemic virus. But even then, there are always immunity vectors. It's unlikely that anything would kill more than 99%.
8:40:10 AM satans_best_assassin: [197] Mars at its area yeah
8:40:12 AM stoic_hacker: [20] We could probably poison all the air or water easily
8:40:15 AM scienceofficerspock: [137] nuclear weapons are poison
8:40:28 AM stoic_hacker: [21] They are, spock, but not the most efficient poison
8:40:45 AM gremlin_net: [157] scienceofficerspock: No. All lifeforms on Earth today won't survive to see tomorrow. Species die out every day, even without radiation sickness.
8:40:54 AM sun_y_e_s: how do you are good in some blame game
8:40:54 AM scienceofficerspock: [138] samiam, what poison lasts thousands of years in the air, water and soil?
8:40:55 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [60] I think zombies offers our bestr hope
8:40:58 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [61] of killing
8:40:59 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [62] everyone
8:41:07 AM stoic_hacker: [22] If it kills fast enough, it doesn't need to last long
8:41:18 AM scienceofficerspock: [139] yeh
8:41:32 AM satans_best_assassin: [198] Red yeah at less zombies hunt down the left overs
8:41:43 AM gremlin_net: [158] red_baiting_capitalist_pig: Actually, in the novel, the zombies didn't technically kill everyone.
8:41:45 AM stoic_hacker: [23] Even something as simple as arsenic would probably do it
8:41:50 AM scienceofficerspock: [140] and nukes make sure it won't be bouncing back soon,unless plutonium proof species evolve
8:42:02 AM satans_best_assassin: [199] gremlin that's why I said "and failed too"
8:42:05 AM gremlin_net: [159] scienceofficerspock: They already have.
8:42:20 AM stoic_hacker: [24] Yes, nukes probably are best if you want to make the planet a sterile moon forever
8:42:21 AM scienceofficerspock: [141] plutonium proof species?
8:42:25 AM scienceofficerspock: [142] example?
8:42:38 AM gremlin_net: [160] There are species on this planet which not only survive in harsh radiation, but love the stuff.
8:42:56 AM scienceofficerspock: [143] lets see that species gremlin
8:43:02 AM satans_best_assassin: [200] yeah it kills off there predators
8:43:19 AM gremlin_net: [161] scienceofficerspock: Look it up. I'm tired of trying to explain things to you, only to have you pretend that you'd asked something different.
8:43:22 AM personalitywhitewashed: their
8:43:24 AM mars_axis: [5] there's suppose to be a huge volcanic caldera under yellowstone
8:43:31 AM personalitywhitewashed: I dont want to be a grammarian but
8:43:35 AM satans_best_assassin: [201] Mars yeah we talked about that too
8:43:50 AM scienceofficerspock: [144] gremlin, you still haven't explained things
8:43:51 AM sun_y_e_s: i feel do ppl like something
8:44:13 AM scienceofficerspock: [145] now you claim "plutonium proof species"
8:44:14 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [63] I saw a funny south park
8:44:16 AM gremlin_net: [162] scienceofficerspock: You really wanna know? Fine by me. My consulting rates are $300 per hour. Need my PayPal.com address?
8:44:17 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [64] imaginationland
8:44:25 AM mars_axis: [6] if it explodes it will take out about a 3rd of North America
8:44:37 AM scienceofficerspock: [146] ok grem, you aren't worth it, sorry
8:44:45 AM personalitywhitewashed: I thought scientists were trying to make it unexplodable.
8:44:47 AM mars_axis: [7] scarey shit
8:44:53 AM stoic_hacker* [25] This discussion has reminded me how vile nukes are. Recently I have seen some people advocate using nukes in the Middle East. It would be far better for such people to just shoot themselves in the head instead.
8:44:58 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [65] I think gremlin_net ought to lower his rates
8:45:02 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [66] $299.99
8:45:05 AM sun_y_e_s: how do ppl survive i mean irrespective of anything they say
8:45:06 AM gremlin_net: [163] Quick, free hint for the poor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioresistant
8:45:07 AM mars_axis: [8] pers, lets hope so
8:45:20 AM personalitywhitewashed: why not just remove the top? Less pressure that way.
8:45:23 AM greatchallengerofall: hi everyone
8:45:26 AM satans_best_assassin: [202] Mars well cover it in ash yeah but only wipe out Washington and the other 3 states it boarders
8:45:51 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [67] man, my ears hairs have really come in this season
8:45:55 AM stoic_hacker: [26] afk
8:46:09 AM mars_axis: [9] satam, I head it would go much further then that
8:46:11 AM stoic_hacker: [27] Sure AAL, they are everywheer
8:46:14 AM sun_y_e_s: why do those called something of any sense break into something which is like something but
8:46:15 AM mars_axis: [10] Satan*
8:46:21 AM gremlin_net: [164] This is all the proof I needed. That I won't discuss Deinococcus radiodurans for free with someone unwilling to learn makes me wrong. Whee.
8:46:28 AM stoic_hacker* [28] afk, gotta make a phone call
8:46:32 AM shadowwolfatrest: greetings all
8:46:36 AM satans_best_assassin: [203] Mars well NY will get like 3 inches of ash but that's not so bad
8:47:01 AM red_baiting_capitalist_pig: [68] I have that much in my beard
8:47:04 AM satans_best_assassin: [204] where as wisconson will have 6m
8:47:17 AM mars_axis: [11] it would be one hell of an explosion
8:47:29 AM satans_best_assassin: [205] Mars oh yeah that's for sure
8:47:39 AM sun_y_e_s: i in my heart is always like something but what i can write
8:48:02 AM gremlin_net: [165] Thinking about it, this might be a fun gotards.com entry. Be back laterish....
8:48:04 AM personalitywhitewashed: that sounds like the good life...living in the subway
8:48:09 AM personalitywhitewashed: we all aspire to that
8:48:14 AM mars_axis: [12] Satan, hopefully it will be a long time before it happens
8:48:18 AM satans_best_assassin: [206] Mars the bitch is it will make the USA and Canada will not have a summer for three years
8:48:28 AM mars_axis: [13] maybe I'll be dead by then
8:48:32 AM satans_best_assassin: [207] Mars could be as many as 20,000 years form now
8:48:36 AM satans_best_assassin: [208] from
8:48:39 AM scienceofficerspock: [147] Ok, deep soil bacteria might survive some levels of plutionium, mankind will not be effected
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