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00.13.50 trek_grrrl: [44] i thought crop circles were proven to be a hoax
00.13.51 fubar_lgd: [5] you smell
00.13.54 lady_scorch: you are all stepping on each other
00.14.03 rowan_ste_julian* (Busy 51 minutes)
00.14.04 nancymoved_tojupiter: [146] it has all the same shit in the crop circle as what was on that gold record
00.14.07 mrs.harwood: i am still drinking
00.14.10 lady_scorch: is the theme
00.14.12 gremlin_net: [45] trek_grrrl: They were. But, conspiratards aren't big fans of evidence.
00.14.15 trek_grrrl: [45] yeah, that couldn't be faked
00.14.20 nancymoved_tojupiter: [147] no, some aren't
00.14.29 blimey_fool:
00.14.41 i_jerk_off_to_holocaust.films: i'm going to beat the shit out of everyone in this entire room.
00.14.45 fubar_lgd: [6] crop circles were staged by republicans who hated the green movement
00.14.46 creeksyde2: Nancy, did it have the "cuts" drawn on the human figures, like those charts showing the cuts of beef?
*** i_jerk_off_to_holocaust.films will be ignored for 9999 days.
00.14.53 trek_grrrl: [46] oh gosh, i'm afeared now
00.14.53 blimey_fool: gnite all
00.14.54 puttin_on_the_ritz_00: [46] i_jerk_off_to_holocaust.films
00.14.57 blimey_fool: ciao
00.15.00 nancymoved_tojupiter: [148] lmao, creek!
00.15.01 lady_scorch: well have fun,,,,,,,,,,,,,, your Mom just checked in'
00.15.06 puttin_on_the_ritz_00: [47] I am skeered
00.15.09 creeksyde2: ...haha.
00.15.11 fubar_lgd: [7] yeah. your mom
00.15.16 mrs.harwood: time for bed
00.15.22 mrs.harwood: good night everyone
00.15.23 nazeer_ptql: i am not an economist, but i am predicting the recession will be over at 1:13pm tuesday march 4 of this year.
00.15.27 lady_scorch: is anyone pisssed off right now
00.15.30 creeksyde2: Nancy, maybe I should sketch that one up as a cartoon.
00.15.32 marie_maravillas: hello
00.15.33 nancymoved_tojupiter: [149] yeah, creek, and a book, "how to serve mankind"
00.15.36 trek_grrrl* [47] notes that down on calendar
00.15.44 creeksyde2: Same idea, I guess.
00.15.46 fubar_lgd: [8] what recession?
00.15.50 gremlin_net: [46] Proving cropcircles to have been hoaxes was redundant. All that mattered was that they were never proved extraterrestrial, supernatural, or remotely interesting.
00.15.50 creeksyde2: ...basically.
00.15.57 lady_scorch: speak into the mike
00.15.58 fubar_lgd: [9] all is well. no recession in my underwear
00.15.59 nancymoved_tojupiter: [150] yes you should creek
00.16.00 trek_grrrl: [48] scorch, pissed off about what?
00.16.08 creeksyde2: That one would be funny, I think.
00.16.22 lady_scorch: is amused
00.16.29 owl_khyder* [14] . o O ( on a bed of lettuce with an apple in its mouth? )
00.16.43 lady_scorch: 30 & under
00.16.48 trek_grrrl: [49] that's like on "Ghostbusters" when peter says, You're right, no human could stack books like this
00.16.49 nancymoved_tojupiter: [151] gremlin, how boring of you to say that. some of those crop circles are so intricate and delicate that they are true art
00.16.49 fubar_lgd: [10] cropcircles are just a prelude to crop algebra
00.17.03 gremlin_net: [47] nancymoved_tojupiter: Art is subjective and unprovable.
00.17.06 creeksyde2: I guess that would be next weeks cartoon.
00.17.12 creeksyde2: week's*
00.17.17 fubar_lgd: [11] cropgebra
00.17.47 lady_scorch: what would you do with if a take over happrnrd in you rooml
00.17.55 nancymoved_tojupiter: [152] grem, you're a writer, you have to have some sort of artistic bent
00.17.58 fubar_lgd: [12] I have no rooml
00.18.10 quaint711312: [12] take over?
00.18.17 cheap_easy_and_drunk_blonde: Shag!
00.18.18 gremlin_net: [48] To my thinking, cropcircles would disprove invading aliens. Either the aliens would figure humans aren't sentient enough to notice cropcircles, in which case they'd land with abandon,
00.18.18 gremlin_net: [49] or they'd get that people notice shit, and avoid leaving cropcircles.
00.18.21 trek_grrrl: [50] i'd be unhappy as i have a microscopic studio
00.18.21 creeksyde2: Rev_amen, thanks.
00.18.24 fubar_lgd: [13] walmart rocks like herpes is the new fad
00.18.25 lady_scorch: everyone hate walmart
00.18.28 trek_grrrl: [51] walmart sucks lately, the bastards
00.18.31 fubar_lgd: [14] yo cheap!
00.18.45 gremlin_net: [50] nancymoved_tojupiter: Also, I get that art is unprovable.
00.18.57 trek_grrrl: [52] here over half their clientele and employees are fat bitches like me, and they've reduced their fat sized choices
00.19.05 lady_scorch: WALMART
00.19.10 owl_khyder* [15] . o O ( the aliens misunderstood. they saw the first signals on TV, which are test patterns, and traced them back to their source so they could reproduce them. )
00.19.16 fubar_lgd: [15] art is in the eye of the capitalist who will pay the rent of the space to display it
00.19.20 creeksyde2: Actually, I think my grammar and spelling has gotten worse since I started chat.
00.19.24 koorimoongrl: australia doesnt have walmart so im imune
00.19.24 lady_scorch: THIS IS A sad room
00.19.29 trek_grrrl: [53] ever see how fat their customers and employees tend to be? yet they cut back the number of clothes to choose from
00.19.30 nancymoved_tojupiter: [153] that's very broadly dismissive, grem
00.19.37 fubar_lgd: [16] as opposed to a happy room?
00.19.38 koorimoongrl: see ya then lady
00.19.44 fubar_lgd: [17] I'm not sad
00.19.50 fubar_lgd: [18] just a little anal itch is all
00.19.53 lady_scorch: well you must be a one of them
00.19.58 gremlin_net: [51] nancymoved_tojupiter: Feel free to test it. Find something artisticish, and prove that it's actually art.
00.20.05 cheap_easy_and_drunk_blonde: Shag eats too many burritos.
00.20.11 nancymoved_tojupiter: [154] lol grem
00.20.13 lady_scorch: bring your kids
00.20.15 trek_grrrl: [54] lol
00.20.16 cheap_easy_and_drunk_blonde: Loobzor!
00.20.23 trek_grrrl: [55] lol at blonde btw
00.20.26 lady_scorch: & the
00.20.29 nancymoved_tojupiter: [155] how do you "prove" art?
00.20.36 fubar_lgd* [19] beats Cheap with flagellation
00.20.39 gremlin_net: [52] nancymoved_tojupiter: I don't. It's unprovable.
00.20.39 whitesven: [1] find an audience
00.20.44 whitesven: [2] you can
00.20.51 trek_grrrl: [56] popular opinion
00.20.52 nazeer_ptql: i'm launching a new company where all employees and all customers have to be obese. calling it Fatmart.
00.20.59 whitesven: [4] EXAMPLE: YOU AS A COMEDIAN.. find an audience????? NO
00.21.06 nancymoved_tojupiter: [156] so, why would i try to prove it for you?
00.21.14 trek_grrrl: [57] that may explain these "art" shows where people stand around ooh'ing and aah'ing splashes of paint on a wall
00.21.21 gremlin_net: [53] nancymoved_tojupiter: Because you want there to be an exception to the rule of unprovable art.
00.21.23 fubar_lgd: [20] art is one of those ambiguous terms that has virtually zero intrinsic value
00.21.26 fubar_lgd* [21] blinks\
00.21.29 trek_grrrl: [58] naz, good idea
00.21.42 trek_grrrl: [59] i thought that's what walmart was
00.21.45 nazeer_ptql: welcome to fatmart. do you have our fatfuck discount card?
00.21.52 fubar_lgd: [22] hahahahaha
00.22.00 trek_grrrl: [60] i'm standing UNDER the "Plus size" sign and there're NO large sized clothes to be seen
00.22.04 trek_grrrl: [61] i thought, WTF???
00.22.13 nancymoved_tojupiter: [157] no, i want the crop circles to be both a communication of some sort, and I THINK they are also very pretty
00.22.20 trek_grrrl: [62] it's seriously pissing me off
00.22.30 trek_grrrl: [63] eh, maybe it's just as well, i'm too poor any way
00.22.33 fubar_lgd: [23] crop circles rock unless you're blind. then umm. oh well
00.22.41 nancymoved_tojupiter: [158] fub is correct
00.22.45 whitesven: [5] Wow, there was my post to save for the day - 'art has virtually zero intrinsic value', if you are not an atheist JOIN NOW, you will be king. lol
00.22.46 gremlin_net: [54] nancymoved_tojupiter: They haven't been proved communicative either. And your opinion is somewhat antithetical to provable fact.
00.23.20 fubar_lgd: [24] no dummy. the word 'art' has no intrinsic value
00.23.21 nancymoved_tojupiter: [159] i didn't know i was touting anything BUT my opinion, as are you
00.23.21 Mad.HaTTer2K: [47] people who keep cutting in and out on voice get the IG
00.23.34 fubar_lgd: [25] because art can apply to almost anything
00.23.40 whitesven: [6] Holy shit, that was one of the stupidest things ever said, and well received. Legendary. *claps for you*
00.23.40 nakedguitarplaya: [69] my family is prone to ufo sightings
00.23.40 Mad.HaTTer2K: [48] it's like they have a wifi connection and are on a merry-go-round
00.23.59 nancymoved_tojupiter: [160] right fub
00.24.01 gremlin_net: [55] The word art kinda inherits value, but only inasmuch as that value is 'not science'.
00.24.30 misanthropic_ladi: *back for a moment*
00.24.32 fubar_lgd: [26] I hate stupid people. Especially when I make really cool comments
00.24.37 fubar_lgd* [27] blinks
00.24.37 rowan_ste_julian* (idle) (Idle 1 hour 1 minute)
00.24.44 owl_khyder* [16] is quite happy that art, despite its lack of rigor , can be proven not to be valuable by scientists in its own right ...
00.24.45 nancymoved_tojupiter: [161] i thought it was cool, that there was an answer to the plaque that got sent to space, that's it
00.24.49 fubar_lgd: [28] LOL
00.24.49 gremlin_net: [56] fubar_lgd: That's usually a good way to find them.
00.25.05 creeksyde2: I get out of the "is it art" question by just accepting that it is. ...though very ugly and terrible and almost worthless art.
00.25.07 owl_khyder: [17] it's a triumph of art! it will never have to bow down before a technocratic audience!
00.25.11 whitesven: [7] Art is however a 'super principle' important in more ways and out of the box dimensions than a mere human mind can fully appreciate
00.25.12 whitesven: [8] - like music - poetry, language itself, the fundaments of HUMAN itself
00.25.29 fubar_lgd: [29] no, carbon & oxygen are the fundamentals of humans
00.25.34 fubar_lgd: [30] you dummy
00.25.36 nancymoved_tojupiter: [162] gremlin! you're an artist
00.25.44 gremlin_net: [57] nancymoved_tojupiter: I'm a scientist.
00.25.45 whitesven: [9] just about one of the only things to elevate one above the nature of a rat
00.25.52 nancymoved_tojupiter: [163] you write SF!
00.25.57 gremlin_net: [58] nancymoved_tojupiter: So?
00.26.02 nancymoved_tojupiter: [164] that's art
00.26.15 gremlin_net: [59] nancymoved_tojupiter: Not by my subjective standards.
00.26.19 nancymoved_tojupiter: [165] loosely speaking
00.26.31 nancymoved_tojupiter: [166] oh ffs, grem
00.27.00 gremlin_net: [60] nancymoved_tojupiter: I write hypotheses I don't expect to be proved. It's not art.
00.27.00 creeksyde2: "I'm a loser, baby. So, why don't you kill me."
00.27.18 fubar_lgd: [31] art has no value because of it loose interpretations
00.27.20 misanthropic_ladi: Grem: Are you intentionally ignoring me?
00.27.25 owl_khyder* [18] . o O ( it's assembly. it's an industrial product. it's a pasteboard fountain. it's a tube of inedible candy. it's a mirror on the soul of the origins of its inception. )
00.27.31 whitesven: [10] Beck is a good example of art. so far gone is mostly nuts
00.27.31 fubar_lgd: [32] it's irrelevent
00.27.32 gremlin_net: [61] misanthropic_ladi: Nope. I didn't see you posting anything.
00.27.37 nancymoved_tojupiter: [167] it's entertaining, art forms of all kinds are entertainment and some times a lesson
00.28.03 zarathustras_vision: all life is a form of art
00.28.03 misanthropic_ladi: 'Twas a bit ago, but..."let me in."
00.28.17 creeksyde2: If it was a true art, it wouldn't be pasteboard.
00.28.18 gremlin_net: [62] misanthropic_ladi: I saw that. And Ii asked what you were talking about.
00.28.21 creeksyde2: -a*
00.28.21 gremlin_net: [63] I*
00.28.28 creeksyde2: ...haha.
00.28.31 misanthropic_ladi: PM.
00.28.40 creeksyde2: Nancy, what's entertaining?
00.28.43 misanthropic_ladi: *raises eyebrow*
00.28.49 koorimoongrl: before it was the jews that were hated big dog now its the americans
00.29.09 nakedguitarplaya: [70] have u guys heard this bigdog guy on mic?
00.29.09 gremlin_net: [64] nancymoved_tojupiter: Artforms of all kinds are entertainment. Dogs of all kinds are mammals. Not all mammals are dogs; not all entertainment is art.
00.29.11 whitesven: [11] American Jews - correct
00.29.12 koorimoongrl: as did the USA
00.29.16 nancymoved_tojupiter: [168] tell me some literature isn't beautiful, and uplifting and desirable to read as opposed to a bat across the head
00.29.33 fubar_lgd: [1] art is a silly connotation for things perceived
00.29.35 koorimoongrl: thats the way beny
00.29.38 gremlin_net: [65] nancymoved_tojupiter: It's immaterial. I don't write those things. You've got a logic error.
00.29.47 koorimoongrl: they can put it into your personal account
00.29.53 nancymoved_tojupiter: [169] i have an opinion, period
00.29.59 fubar_lgd* [2] humps Freud
00.30.09 nakedguitarplaya: [71] sleeps with jung
00.30.16 nancymoved_tojupiter: [170] definitions of things require labels
00.30.25 fubar_lgd: [3] ;abels rock
00.30.29 fubar_lgd: [4] and labels
00.30.29 nancymoved_tojupiter: [171] one lable for literature is art
00.30.32 gremlin_net: [66] nancymoved_tojupiter: Your opinion is based on faulty logic. Change a couple words, and your opinion is that, dogs being mammals, cats, being mammals, are dogs.
00.30.32 nancymoved_tojupiter: [172] sue me
00.30.42 nakedguitarplaya: [72] rock n roll aint art
00.30.48 fubar_lgd: [5] faulty logic rocks
00.30.54 Mad.HaTTer2K: [49] sure it is
00.31.07 creeksyde2: It's not art if I decide the word "art" doesn't mean what everyone else means by it. Know what I mean?
00.31.12 fubar_lgd: [6] my ass is corrupt, the government just stinks
00.31.13 nancymoved_tojupiter: [173] i don't recall using the word ALL, grem
00.31.27 gremlin_net: [67] Art is entertaining. Gravity is entertaining. Gravity isn't art.
00.31.29 nancymoved_tojupiter: [174] yes, creek
00.31.35 fubar_lgd: [7] like I said. Art has no intrinsic calue
00.31.38 nakedguitarplaya: [73] gravity is just static cling
00.31.43 misanthropic_ladi: *sits back*
00.31.48 creeksyde2: Nancy, uh oh. You shouldn't understand that!
00.31.56 creeksyde2: ...haha.
00.32.15 nancymoved_tojupiter: [175] grem, mostly logical fallacies involve "all"
00.32.25 gremlin_net: [68] misanthropic_ladi: Oh. misanthropic_ladi isn't in my list. That's why I'm not getting any messages.
00.32.26 nancymoved_tojupiter: [176] you're the one saying all
00.32.33 misanthropic_ladi: Ah.
00.32.48 owl_khyder* [19] invites count korzybski to sit with me and have a cup of tea and non-tea prior to his annual bloodletting.
00.33.07 gremlin_net: [69] nancymoved_tojupiter: No I'm not. I'm saying that art is by definition unprovable. And that's largely because you can't apply criteria to all potentially artistic elements.
00.33.29 owl_khyder: [20] rev: swallow a leper colony full of pegs, buttboy.
00.33.29 nakedguitarplaya: [74] I may have to summon a meteor to destroy u overhunters
00.33.34 fubar_lgd: [8] isn't art just another term for perception?
00.33.35 whitesven: [12] me, a few whites, and all the blacks. The rest will watch
00.33.37 creeksyde2: Nancy, I've heard interviews with Alan Parsons in which he spoke of having lyrics that could mean multiple things. ...and so generally would be taken different ways by different people.
00.34.08 whitesven: [13] Ironic only blacks have the balls to fight for the constitution. God is mysterious
00.34.13 nancymoved_tojupiter: [177] and i'm saying, i didn't say crop circles are only art, or that all of them are pretty or have some redeeming quality. i said, some, and imho
00.34.15 nakedguitarplaya: [75] creek that's righrt
00.34.23 nakedguitarplaya: [76] never tell ppl what yer songs r about
00.34.31 owl_khyder: [21] nancy: ok, i admit it, crop circles are a product of Doctor Evil Ministries.
00.34.44 gremlin_net: [70] nancymoved_tojupiter: So, in your opinion, which can't be used as evidence, some cropcircles look good. And?
00.34.44 nancymoved_tojupiter: [178] lol nox, i knew it
00.34.46 creeksyde2: Naked, yes, and I suppose it's the same way with much poetry.
00.34.47 fubar_lgd: [9] my ass fights for the conistitution
00.35.10 nancymoved_tojupiter: [179] that's it, grem! you made the federal case, not me
00.35.14 owl_khyder* [22] . o O ( six assburgers, please, the world's about to end. )
00.35.21 fubar_lgd: [10] mmmmmm assburgers
00.35.23 m0zone* (away) (Idle)
00.35.24 nancymoved_tojupiter: [180] yeah, same as poetry
00.35.24 nakedguitarplaya: [77] means different things to diff ppl
00.35.26 whitesven: [14] For all my 'white supremecy' i never denied American whites were cowardly to the bone
00.35.41 gremlin_net: [71] nancymoved_tojupiter: I'm oddly tempted to post this to gotards.com and let people read through it twice to watch that totally not happen.
00.35.42 fubar_lgd: [11] whitsven, that's because you're a clown
00.35.46 creeksyde2: It's not my role to prove or disprove that what you have created is "art." It's my role to tell you that whatever it is, it sucks.
00.35.48 fubar_lgd: [12] you ass
00.35.52 whitesven: [15] first to believe any lie on TV. first to surrender to authority.
00.36.19 nakedguitarplaya: [78] I cant write free verse, always with the rhyming
00.36.20 mythosirian: [1] b assclown
00.36.43 mythosirian: [2] b Braidedbutt
00.36.48 Mad.HaTTer2K: [50] It's much easier to ignore someone than demand they shut up.
00.37.01 koorimoongrl: amen beny
00.37.08 braided_n_gold: [1] hey oxi ugg
00.37.13 misanthropic_ladi: *sits near Osi*
00.37.19 fubar_lgd: [13] huh?
00.37.20 nancymoved_tojupiter: [181] i began this with the statement that there was an answer to the plaque we sent out to space, then someone said it doesn't mean it came from aliens. i don't recall
00.37.26 nancymoved_tojupiter: [182] saying aliens did it
00.37.26 mythosirian: [3] b Ladi
00.37.28 misanthropic_ladi: Hatter, why do that?
00.37.40 nakedguitarplaya: [79] white power bible hour with big dog
00.37.43 Mad.HaTTer2K: [51] because you want them to be quiet.
00.37.46 misanthropic_ladi: It's fun to yell in big font.
00.37.48 gremlin_net: [72] nancymoved_tojupiter: You don't remember who said that, yet you're telling me what I said when I never said it?
00.37.49 nancymoved_tojupiter: [183] also, grem, don't call me a 'tard
00.37.49 Mad.HaTTer2K: [52] Ignore is the ultimate silence.
00.38.03 nakedguitarplaya: [80] lets all yell
00.38.04 Mad.HaTTer2K: [53] outside of them dying at their keyboard
00.38.16 misanthropic_ladi: Hatter, I'm the same way. Smile.
00.38.16 owl_khyder: [23] *sighs* well, i see where this needs to end up ...
00.38.21 nancymoved_tojupiter: [184] which statement of yours did i get wrong?
00.38.29 gremlin_net: [73] nancymoved_tojupiter: I said that cropcircles had never been proved supernatural, extraterrestrial, or interesting. That last one being obvious, the state of being interesting also being subjective and unprovable.
00.38.33 braided_n_gold: [2] mornin nan
00.38.36 mythosirian: [4] b HIya Hunter
00.38.37 nakedguitarplaya: [81] ya but hes an old dog too and cant and wont learn new tricks
00.38.52 hunter.the_crazychick* [1] seriously considers killing the next person who points to the eyes as evidence of an intelligent designer.
00.38.53 mythosirian: [5] b Nox
00.38.56 hunter.the_crazychick: [2] Osi.
00.38.59 nancymoved_tojupiter: [185] ooooh the interesting thing. purely subjective, hence my veering off into art
00.39.05 nakedguitarplaya: [82] grem, that's not true vtw
00.39.11 nakedguitarplaya: [83] ppl find them very interesting
00.39.14 mythosirian: [6] b Nance
00.39.17 gremlin_net: [74] nancymoved_tojupiter: So, you veered into art. Not me. So, tell me again whose fault that was.
00.39.17 nancymoved_tojupiter: [186] mornin braid!
00.39.21 nakedguitarplaya: [84] theres been heat signatures and things
00.39.26 m0zone* is back
00.39.33 nancymoved_tojupiter: [187] hey osi
00.39.36 nancymoved_tojupiter: [188] oops
00.39.41 mythosirian: [7] b giggles
00.39.42 misanthropic_ladi: *pokes Hunter*
00.39.44 gremlin_net: [75] nancymoved_tojupiter: Yeah. Oops.
00.39.45 hunter.the_crazychick: [3] Ladi.
00.39.46 Mad.HaTTer2K: [54] Hunter I saw a guy go into a rant about it in the check out lane once.
00.40.05 mythosirian: [8] b Grem, I think that opps was for me
00.40.05 nancymoved_tojupiter: [189] yours! you said it wasn't interesting, which is totally an opinion
00.40.26 nancymoved_tojupiter: [190] i didn't say oops to you, grem
00.40.32 nakedguitarplaya: [85] every gf ive had could care less that I can play music
00.40.35 mythosirian: [9] b ummmmh mmm
00.40.40 hunter.the_crazychick: [4] Mad.HaTTer2K: any idea what set him off?
00.40.42 nakedguitarplaya: [86] I don't play to get laid
00.40.43 gremlin_net: [76] nancymoved_tojupiter: It's my fault that subjective disinterest equates to your need to bring up art and blame it on me. Gotcha. Be back in a bit....
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