Loafershews

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Total learning disorder. Evades questions and ignores answers. Meatbots the same tired, baseless assertions, corrections notwithstanding. Also smells bad.

4:55:09 PM loafershews: atheist are looking for truth, thats why they come here
4:55:16 PM cheese_and_nitroglycerin: it may mean... enjoy the meories. find yourself a nice college boy
4:55:19 PM jestandillusion: to save time, you dont have to write my name, I assume your talking to me
4:55:20 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: maybe we just like to debate
4:55:20 PM ralph_nadir: and hairy?
4:55:29 PM Antihero496: i'll never love anybody as much as i love him
4:55:30 PM mr_mindblank: Annie: Yes, and you know what they say about the size of a hobbit's feet, right? Nothing. They say nothing.
4:55:40 PM loafershews: I mean, is their an atheist chat room. it would be so boring to be in one
4:55:41 PM waytoomuchof: the_dude_2012: religion is a point of interest. People can discuss their interest with anyone they choose. It isn't reserved for insane adherents to religion
4:55:41 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: cause anybody knows that we don't stick to religious debate in here
4:55:48 PM quaint711312: the_dude - I'm in a *Religion* chat because yahoo did away with user made chats that are open to the public
4:55:52 PM orion314999: mind, take the poor little thing to the vet..you heartless cad
4:55:54 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: some times it's polotics, science
4:56:10 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: really it's more of a debate room......with religion as sort of a fall back topic
4:56:19 PM the_dude_2012: Loafer those atheists who are genuinely looking for truth as you say, I do respect, but do you think that holds true for all atheists ? 99% of the atheists in these rooms just want to give Xtians a hard time.
4:56:19 PM jestandillusion: and your frequent attempts at dilluding my worth by slippoing "kid" within your sentence have obviously had no effect
4:56:22 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: that shows how ignorant you are
4:56:23 PM quaint711312: the_dude - and I would happily go to a chat titled *Atheism* if yahoo provide any
4:56:29 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Traditionally, atheists are looking for facts.
4:56:45 PM waytoomuchof: the_dude_2012: christians posses no truth, they just think they do
4:56:46 PM loafershews: how can you explain faith
4:56:59 PM quaint711312: the_dude but since they don't - this is the closest I can get and still hang with other atheists
4:57:02 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Possibly a chemical imbalance.
4:57:06 PM mr_mindblank: Orion: I will, but as a last resort. I almost panicked and took him to the vet the first night I had him because his back was wet, but I found out that it was his scent glands and its normal. I'm glad I didn't pay $80 to learn that.
4:57:13 PM the_dude_2012: I never said I'd volunteer myself to be pinned up on your guy's burning crosses
4:57:15 PM loafershews: maybe divine intervention
4:57:20 PM jestandillusion: the only thing Ive came here to do was to perhaps gain some form of enlightenment within these chat lines
4:57:26 PM annie_pio_jsh: how did you find that out mindblank?
4:57:33 PM annie_pio_jsh: did you research that on the 'net?
4:57:35 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: It's less likely. Chemicals are known to exist in fact. Deities aren't.
4:57:35 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: well the_dude_2012, in respect to giving xitans a hard time, you seem to be a xitan, just looking to give athiest a hard time
4:57:37 PM loafershews: no enlightment in chat rooms, believe me
4:57:38 PM orion314999: just j/k..still.....
4:57:42 PM ali3nsapi3n* : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust
4:57:42 PM jestandillusion: and when I was asked about my personal beliefs, I answred humbly
4:57:45 PM cheese_and_nitroglycerin: everyone knows atheism is caused only by direct sexual encounter with the clergy...
4:57:46 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: would it not be fair to say that the same mentality applies to you?
4:57:52 PM loafershews: my diety exists I am loving it
4:57:56 PM jestandillusion: and have remained humble throughout this conversation
4:58:00 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: What's its name?
4:58:02 PM mr_mindblank: Annie: I read and asked around. They have two little glands above their legjoints on their backs that, when they secrete, discolors the fur a little.
4:58:10 PM loafershews: G-d
4:58:14 PM annie_pio_jsh: i hate rodents
4:58:21 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Jehovah? I've heard of that one.
4:58:21 PM annie_pio_jsh: Candy PLEASE dont go there. PLEASE.
4:58:23 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: it's hardly "humble" when you project your beliefs as the answer and deem people who don't agree with you as "angry" and "evil"
4:58:27 PM the_dude_2012: No Rev ... Actually most of the time I calmly resist talking about my views, and try to ignore the non-stop atheistic babble.
4:58:35 PM loafershews: whatever name you want to call him
4:58:38 PM orion314999: pope is a catch annie
4:58:41 PM hal9000servicelogician: "You're looking for God or you wouldn't be here, you stupid assholes. Fuck you, and go away!" - a grain of salt, displaying the peace that comes from belief
4:58:42 PM annie_pio_jsh: Orion
4:58:43 PM jestandillusion: subsiding your insults and attempts to disprove and truth within my thought
4:58:44 PM the_dude_2012: But when I occassionally mention a hint as to what I believe, I get mauled.
4:58:48 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: what about lower tier thiest who troll from room to room. making generalized offensive remarks
4:58:53 PM Antihero496: i guess i'll keep holding it in...
4:58:54 PM mr_mindblank: Waytoo is angry and evil, but not because he disagrees with Jestandillusion. j/k.
4:58:57 PM annie_pio_jsh: Speaking of catch...you know which chatter was/is really hot?
4:59:02 PM loafershews: what is a lower tier atheist
4:59:12 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: It has a few names. The YodHehVavHeh, Ehieh Esher Ehieh, Jealous. It might be a troll.
4:59:18 PM annie_pio_jsh: Cock_puke he was smokin' hot but i haven't seen him in almost a year.
4:59:19 PM ali3nsapi3n: lol oss
4:59:23 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: but, now what.....you've broken down? reached your whits end?
4:59:26 PM loafershews: whatever
4:59:27 PM annie_pio_jsh: Dink aside from you silly
4:59:28 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: nothing you have said is truth, it's just what you believe
4:59:34 PM orion314999: hey osi
4:59:41 PM Antihero496: food is a good distraction
4:59:45 PM annie_pio_jsh: candy well i dont know about that one I didnt see him naked..
4:59:46 PM jestandillusion: reality is what you believe
4:59:49 PM the_dude_2012: Rev ... Honestly I don't have the stomach to watch atheists try to bring down aevery theist around them.
4:59:57 PM orion314999: and evening everybody
4:59:58 PM annie_pio_jsh: wait I think he did cam once without his shirt and he looked really hot.
4:59:59 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Unfortunately, it was dsproved. The bible defined Jehovah as a thing all people would believe in. In fact, only three in ten do.
5:00:02 PM mr_mindblank: See you, Orion.
5:00:03 PM annie_pio_jsh:
5:00:06 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: so what do you hope to accomplish here to day?
5:00:06 PM jestandillusion: perceiving conceptions
5:00:07 PM gremlin_net: disproved*
5:00:10 PM annie_pio_jsh: bye orion
5:00:12 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: I believe you're a pedophile. According to you, that is reality, right?
5:00:14 PM Antihero496: anybody wanna chat?
5:00:17 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: what is it you think your going to change
5:00:21 PM orion314999: funny
5:00:21 PM jestandillusion: to you, yes
5:00:21 PM loafershews: so you know for 100 percent there is no God
5:00:22 PM the_dude_2012: Try posing questions in an honest, respectful manner without the undercurrent of trying to exploit people's views, and maybe we'll see a genuine cnoversation take place.
5:00:23 PM mr_mindblank: In Greek myth, Orion was the handsomest man ever, moreso than even Adonis.
5:00:35 PM ali3nsapi3n:
5:00:45 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Me? No. There might be millions of deities. They might be hiding behind the goblins.
5:00:45 PM quaint711312: the_dude - they don't have *bring down* LOL - they do that all by themselves
5:00:48 PM annie_pio_jsh: OMG this woman has a "Cubs" bridal dress...its a cubs sleeveless top sewed together with a bottom white fluffy skirt
5:00:52 PM mr_mindblank: Orion: I thought you said "evening" as in "goodbye," sorry, lol.
5:00:54 PM annie_pio_jsh: Candy Poni did
5:00:56 PM ali3nsapi3n: yup
5:01:01 PM rowan_ste_julian* (busy) "I miss my boy."
5:01:03 PM orion314999: happen not to be wearing a shirt
5:01:07 PM jestandillusion: and I feel that no matter what I say, or how kind I am, you will continue to feel that way, simply because it helps you to feel justified
5:01:08 PM ali3nsapi3n: awww candy ty
5:01:09 PM loafershews: well, its amazing that millions of believers are disallusioned
5:01:10 PM the_dude_2012: Alright I'll explain my views
5:01:22 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Not really. It's happened before. It'll happen again.
5:01:31 PM mr_mindblank: Russian bombers buzz Alaska. Two US fighters scramble in response. Wonderful.
5:01:36 PM hal9000servicelogician: "You're looking for God or you wouldn't be here, you stupid assholes. Fuck you, and go away!" - a grain of salt, displaying the peace that comes from belief
5:01:37 PM long_bowe: eym..you runnin' a temperture??
5:01:43 PM loafershews: and how am I different by believeing in God
5:01:48 PM the_dude_2012: If you take a bird's eye look at the world and the universe, it definetely seems to speak of a divine presence, an intelligence if you will, overseeing the whole operation.
5:01:49 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: there's no rational in what you believe, that is clear, but please feel free to believe it. Just stop telling me I have to believe as you do
5:01:50 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: You're not.
5:01:52 PM ali3nsapi3n: 5 incidences since july mister.
5:01:56 PM prometheus2012rising: religion is what enslaves you..ya just dont know it yet and science..the good science is suppressed. You just dont know it yet But you will soon:...Meanwhile they will occupy your time with Islamic terrorists
5:01:57 PM loafershews: so then we are the same
5:02:03 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: purrchasing_earths_free_yield your an attention whore
5:02:06 PM jestandillusion: I made no such demands
5:02:09 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: We? No. I don't believe in deities.
5:02:11 PM ali3nsapi3n* checks his head
5:02:14 PM prometheus2012rising: boogey men
5:02:15 PM long_bowe: eym...someone said you're hot!.....lol
5:02:16 PM long_bowe: lol
5:02:18 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: fine
5:02:21 PM prometheus2012rising: keep you in fear and hatred
5:02:21 PM mr_mindblank: Alien: I've heard whispers of a "New Cold War." Also...wonderful.
5:02:24 PM the_dude_2012: There is the saying ' seek and ye shall find ' which when thought about, seems to mean that for certain humans that pondered a Creator's existance all the time, they found certain conclusive results.
5:02:27 PM prometheus2012rising:
5:02:33 PM loafershews: but my belief in a diety doesnt make any difference in my life
5:02:40 PM the_dude_2012: The Creator appeared to them in visions, in sickness, in situations near-death, etc.
5:02:43 PM ali3nsapi3n* is chilly today
5:02:44 PM waytoomuchof: the_dude_2012: bullshit. There is no evidence of a creator
5:02:44 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: At least you can admit it.
5:02:45 PM long_bowe: eym - take 2 doobies and call me in the morning
5:02:45 PM jestandillusion: I simply protested to your obviosly false statement that being kind is useless
5:02:48 PM hal9000servicelogician: The proposition ‘god exists’ is not factual. The previous proposition is a fact. The converse proposition, ‘god does not exist’, is also not factual.
5:02:50 PM loafershews: what do I lose by believing in God
5:02:57 PM ali3nsapi3n: copy that
5:02:59 PM prometheus2012rising: a creator or creators?
5:03:02 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: A bit of integrity. That's about it.
5:03:04 PM prometheus2012rising: that is the question
5:03:05 PM ali3nsapi3n: 93
5:03:09 PM prometheus2012rising:
5:03:11 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: I NEVER said being kind was useless. Now you are lying
5:03:17 PM orion314999: putin is planning on how to stay in charge of russia after his term expires
5:03:25 PM ali3nsapi3n: 55 out r/now here
5:03:30 PM the_dude_2012: Now, a lot of these people who claimed to have direct experience with a Creator, they took notes which is only logical when you think about it. Mental notes of what happened, and told the stories by mouth for generations.
5:03:36 PM waytoomuchof: loafershews: your ability to think
5:03:39 PM orion314999: wants to be prime minister
5:03:44 PM quaint711312: loaf - your self respect - your self esteem - you have to crawl before a mythical god and admit your are a *sinner* - so you have to lose any ego you might have had
5:03:56 PM mr_mindblank: Orion: It seems like Russia deposed communism only to get a new czar.
5:03:58 PM Antihero496: the pain is ineffable
5:04:00 PM quaint711312: loaf and there is nothing wrong with having a healthy ego
5:04:05 PM the_dude_2012: Eventually this was recorded onto paper, and thus the various religious texts the whole world over. They give man a glimpse of the Divine because he is too lazy to look for himself.
5:04:07 PM ali3nsapi3n: i got my space heater blastin on my knees
5:04:11 PM ralph_nadir: I miss Yeltsin
5:04:12 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: It's probably not even your fault. The hypothesis that theism is caused by cytosene at the VMAT2 would make it out of your hands entirely.
5:04:15 PM loafershews: what integrity have I lost. Do you think I am worried about how the world thinks of me. Do you care how the world thinks of your
5:04:22 PM hal9000servicelogician: *** purrchasing_earths_free_yield will be ignored for 9999 days.<----spamming asshole
5:04:25 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: purrchasing_earths_free_yield, cram it with walnuts you spam whore
5:04:36 PM jestandillusion: bcause for me, and many hundreds of thousands of believers, in a multitude of different faiths, being a kind and good person is the one thing all our religions have in common
5:04:37 PM orion314999: russia seems to like strong man leaders
5:04:39 PM prometheus2012rising: tempe terra
5:04:43 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: That you're defending your lack of integrity as an okay thing suggests that you care what I think.
5:04:44 PM ali3nsapi3n: with the bird poop stain on his head
5:04:54 PM hal9000servicelogician: jest; not animism
5:04:54 PM the_dude_2012: Jest ... I completely agree.
5:05:00 PM loafershews: but you cannot disprove there is no God
5:05:03 PM quaint711312: loaf I don't care to be dishonest - and if as an unbeliever - I tried to claim there was a god-monster - that for me would be a lie
5:05:04 PM jestandillusion: the MOST common way to find inner peace
5:05:05 PM hal9000servicelogician: so, all religions do not have something in common after all
5:05:21 PM quaint711312: loaf - to claim I'm something I'm not - a *sinner* - would be a lie
5:05:23 PM hal9000servicelogician: Two facts denied by most theists; 1) there is still no empirical evidence of anything supernatural, and 2) the term ‘god’ is logically empty of extension
5:05:27 PM the_dude_2012: That is the common thread if you will of religious people from various religions, they tend to be calm-spirited, niec, charitable people, despite what the media portrays.
5:05:32 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: it's the limits of whats consider kind and good, and to who that your kind and good to that differ from religion to religion
5:05:32 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Why would I want to disprove a lack of deities? In point of fact, there are already no deities. In point of myth, there are potentially millions.
5:05:34 PM quaint711312: loaf and I would LOSE those things
5:05:36 PM loafershews: but that is the neat thing about God, He exists even though you dont believe it
5:05:36 PM hal9000servicelogician: Logically, the term 'God' is exactly like that of 'unicorn'
5:05:40 PM orion314999: atheism is a religion..with lousy holidays
5:05:44 PM quaint711312: loaf RAPIST
5:05:44 PM mr_mindblank: Orion: Yes, they do.. Christopher Hitchens (seriously?) claims that's the Russian Orthodox Church's fault, lol.
5:05:54 PM ali3nsapi3n:
5:06:01 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: if you think all religions are about peace, and love.....i got two words for you "holy war"
5:06:01 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: if you need to believe in a god in order to do good, you aren't a good person, you're an ass-kisser
5:06:04 PM mr_mindblank: Purr: Atheism is a theological stance, but not a religion.
5:06:09 PM hal9000servicelogician: loafer; you may not define anything into existence
5:06:09 PM loafershews: so you cant disprove, that means you dont really know
5:06:11 PM hal9000servicelogician: including your god
5:06:13 PM quaint711312: loaf that is a rapist attitude - that your god-monster exists for ALL - whether we like it or not
5:06:18 PM the_dude_2012: Agreed Purchasing
5:06:19 PM hal9000servicelogician: The proposition ‘god exists’ is not factual. The previous proposition is a fact. The converse proposition, ‘god does not exist’, is also not factual.
5:06:28 PM ondoher2* (away) (idle) (Idle)
5:06:32 PM hal9000servicelogician: The existence of God is not a fact.
5:06:34 PM quaint711312: loaf I don't have to disprove something that is NOT there in the first place
5:06:35 PM loafershews: He exists for those who want him
5:06:35 PM orion314999: saw Hitchens promoting atheism on sunday talk shows
5:06:38 PM the_dude_2012: Anyone who thinks that science and religion are against eachother is far too lost for me to even contemplate.
*** The line is too long to send after 'INFData', make it shorter.
5:06:43 PM ali3nsapi3n:
5:06:47 PM loafershews: show me where God does not exist
5:06:49 PM gremlin_net: orion314999: Arguably, atheism has July the Fourth: celebrating emancipation from a theocracy and the foundation of a secular government
5:06:49 PM gremlin_net: by arresting and fining people who set off firecrackers.
5:06:53 PM annie_pio_jsh: is it unhealthy to hear and feel a pulse going through your head?
5:07:00 PM ali3nsapi3n: o-) o-)
5:07:03 PM hal9000servicelogician: loafer; the existence of a god is not a fact
5:07:06 PM waytoomuchof: loafershews: god does not exist here, beside me on my couch
5:07:08 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: In my house. I've got a sign and everything.
5:07:08 PM quaint711312: loaf that you have to take a rapist stance - and make claims you can't back up speaks volumes about your desperate need for a myth
5:07:11 PM loafershews: what report have you read that God does not exist
5:07:11 PM ali3nsapi3n: puffin won
5:07:23 PM orion314999: says it will be a real political force..was wondering what he was smoking
5:07:27 PM ralph_nadir: annie...it means you have brain worms
5:07:33 PM hal9000servicelogician: loafer; the existence of God is not a fact
5:07:37 PM annie_pio_jsh: you guys are so very funny har har
5:07:43 PM loafershews: then tell me how do you know
5:07:43 PM ali3nsapi3n: *titty*
5:07:46 PM annie_pio_jsh: dink i dont know, im pretty calm...
5:07:47 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Wanna see it? http://www.cafepress.com/wastedinc.11962636
5:07:48 PM mr_mindblank: Orion: Did you see him debate with the Newsweek editor with Tim Russert?
5:07:49 PM jestandillusion: I dont believe in God in order to do good, I believe god WANTS me to do good
5:07:55 PM quaint711312: loaf again - doesn't need a REPORT - if it's not there - there is NO REPORT - just as there is NO EVIDENCE
5:07:55 PM annie_pio_jsh: maybe its because of the lack of fluids...
5:07:59 PM hal9000servicelogician: This is what the national academy of sciences says a fact is, " Fact: In science, an observation that has been repeatedly confirmed and for all practical purposes is accepted as ‘true’.
5:08:01 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: you don't have to be excited to have high blood pressure annie_pio_jsh
5:08:02 PM annie_pio_jsh: my stomach feels very acidic as well
5:08:04 PM quaint711312: loaf because - it's NOT there LOL
5:08:15 PM orion314999: part of it..was channel surfing
5:08:23 PM ali3nsapi3n: beer is calling
5:08:26 PM loafershews: are you 100 percent sure there is no God
5:08:27 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: but if your hearing a pulse, or ringing in your ears, chances are it's high blood pressure
5:08:31 PM Antihero496: just got a 23 year old bothering me. doesn't care if i say i'm 16
5:08:33 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: We've been over this. Deities haven't been shown to exist in fact. Jehovah specifically has been repudiated by its own biblical definition.
5:08:37 PM quaint711312: loaf yes - for me - I am
5:08:38 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: that's not what you said. You credited religious people with doing good and earlier claimed atheists could not be good. Clearly, you're wrong
5:08:40 PM Antihero496: creep
5:08:48 PM annie_pio_jsh: Rev_baal I know
5:08:54 PM annie_pio_jsh: but i have pretty normal BP
5:08:54 PM magellan004: The evidence is all around us
5:08:58 PM annie_pio_jsh: and i check it fairly regularly
5:09:02 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: why?
5:09:06 PM hal9000servicelogician: what we ordinarily mean by a fact is that which has been established to be true; in other words, a proposition that has been verified, corroborated, determined to be true by either deductive or empirical methods,
5:09:07 PM jestandillusion: wether God be human esque, or a force, or a conciousness, I believe being a good person is all that matters
5:09:07 PM annie_pio_jsh: so it would be odd to have high BP now
5:09:07 PM hal9000servicelogician: distinct from a possible state of affairs or conditions that may or may not exist in reality independent of our assertions about them.
5:09:09 PM annie_pio_jsh: why what
5:09:12 PM ali3nsapi3n: i been cravin beer for a couple weeks now.
5:09:18 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: I don't care whether deities exist. If you care, go prove it and get the Nobel Prize.
5:09:23 PM annie_pio_jsh: i think popes and dink should get together.
5:09:28 PM Antihero496: beer ain't that good, except for coronas
5:09:28 PM loafershews: so only in your own mind there is no God, wow that is a real fact. did you write a report on that. I mean you have knowledge noone else nows, yhou should go on oprah
5:09:32 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: why check your blood pressure so regularly, unless you have a reason to suspect there someting wrong with it
5:09:37 PM orion314999: eym..root beer
5:09:37 PM annie_pio_jsh: candy get poni to cook
5:09:39 PM annie_pio_jsh: dink so?
5:09:42 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: You're a bit of a moron, aren't you....
5:09:46 PM hal9000servicelogician: loafer; do you even know what a fact is?
5:09:51 PM jestandillusion: and again I'll say, when I meet him, or her, or it, I believe I'll hear "Look, you may have got it wrong, but you're alright. Come with me"
5:09:52 PM hal9000servicelogician: The existence of God is not a fact.
5:09:56 PM annie_pio_jsh: what your husband doesnt know can't hurt him!
5:10:01 PM ali3nsapi3n: root beer bacardi
5:10:01 PM loafershews: well in her mind there is no God, in my mind there is a God
5:10:13 PM orion314999: lol
5:10:14 PM annie_pio_jsh: dink lol well that's good to heard.
5:10:17 PM hal9000servicelogician: Facts are not in our minds
5:10:19 PM annie_pio_jsh: hear*
5:10:21 PM Antihero496: what's very easy to cook?
5:10:24 PM annie_pio_jsh: popes its called sarcasm
5:10:24 PM ondoher2* is back
5:10:26 PM magellan004: Notice the tricky wording 'haven't been shown to exist' (passive voice), no source for this assertion- it's the fallacy of BS authority
5:10:27 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: So, your imaginary friend is in your mind? I'm not seeing how that makes it factual.
5:10:29 PM loafershews: one is 100 perecent right and one is 100 percent wrong
5:10:31 PM hal9000servicelogician: Facts are repeatable, observable, accessible to anyone, anytime
5:10:33 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: anybody who thinks you can get real knowlege from oprah is an idiot
5:10:33 PM orion314999: annie..he will know
5:10:33 PM annie_pio_jsh: i dont promote immoral behavior...for the most part
5:10:39 PM hal9000servicelogician: Two facts denied by most theists; 1) there is still no empirical evidence of anything supernatural, and 2) the term ‘god’ is logically empty of extension
5:10:39 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: oh and fuck dr.phil
5:10:43 PM annie_pio_jsh: orion some men are real stupid
5:10:47 PM ali3nsapi3n: no, i dont have any here.
5:10:48 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: and if I ever meet a religious person who does good for a reason other than "god wants me too" I'll be sure and tell you
5:10:52 PM annie_pio_jsh: they just dont pick up on the signal
5:10:56 PM orion314999: ok..true
5:10:59 PM annie_pio_jsh: that their woman is cheating
5:11:01 PM rowan_ste_julian* (idle) "I miss my boy."
5:11:02 PM annie_pio_jsh: his*
5:11:08 PM indian_prince_5: hello ppl
5:11:09 PM mAd.HaTtEr2k: "real knowledge"? so everything Oprah says is a lie?
5:11:12 PM Antihero496: quick, best song ever!
5:11:23 PM mr_mindblank: I try to do good for reasons other than "god wants me to."
5:11:25 PM annie_pio_jsh: popes indeed.
5:11:26 PM jestandillusion: I do good because its the right thing to do, wether I'm being tested or not
5:11:27 PM orion314999: Oprah is God
5:11:28 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: yes mAd.HaTtEr2k
5:11:39 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: oprah's cunt tried to kill the president
5:11:40 PM jestandillusion: I "believe" in kindness, in benevolence
5:11:40 PM annie_pio_jsh: and then there are those who promote it in their marriage
5:11:42 PM mAd.HaTtEr2k: well I'm glad we cleared that up
5:11:42 PM loafershews: I would think that all you all knowing people in this chat room would be doing othere things than wasting time in this chat room
5:11:43 PM annie_pio_jsh: aka open marriage
5:11:52 PM indian_prince_5: hateful ppl become target of hate themselves one point of time...
5:11:57 PM ali3nsapi3n: orpah , pharo
5:11:57 PM mAd.HaTtEr2k: tried to kill the president?
5:12:01 PM annie_pio_jsh: popes how come?
5:12:03 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: a real god would know your limitations. Testing would not be necessary. Besides, you've already claimed to the contrary.
5:12:03 PM hal9000servicelogician* is away (checking for gadflies)
5:12:04 PM mr_mindblank: When I see people wholesale criticize and dismiss religious people, people who have known me for a while, should I be offended?
5:12:04 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: yup
5:12:04 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Before or after you'd think that a repudiated deity was invading your mind?
5:12:07 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: her cunt did
5:12:13 PM quaint711312: loaf not a waste of my time - if you feel chat is a waste of your time - why not leave?
5:12:13 PM annie_pio_jsh: if both the husband and wife are okay with it, why is it wrong?
5:12:15 PM annie_pio_jsh: popes lol
5:12:15 PM indian_prince_5: pope should run for president??
5:12:16 PM mAd.HaTtEr2k:
5:12:19 PM ali3nsapi3n: harpo
5:12:24 PM loafershews: its amazing, of all the smartest people in the world are in this chat room
5:12:25 PM annie_pio_jsh: mindblank indeed
5:12:32 PM magellan004: mr_mindblank What other reason could there be?
5:12:38 PM annie_pio_jsh: i was by a few comments by two chatters
5:12:39 PM orion314999: mind..no..for one thing ..not worth it
5:12:40 PM annie_pio_jsh: i didnt let them know
5:12:41 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Not all. Some are asleep.
5:12:50 PM annie_pio_jsh: braided yes i agree
5:12:51 PM loafershews: everyone here is 100 percent right, except neigther one of you will agree with the other
5:12:55 PM indian_prince_5: hi vel
5:12:59 PM jestandillusion: A real God knows everybodies limitations, but wants to see how you'll use what youve been givin
5:13:01 PM quaint711312: Hi there
5:13:05 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Stop meatbotting. It's vexing.
5:13:07 PM magellan004: loafershews Wrong
5:13:22 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: prove it
5:13:23 PM Antihero496: but as president you can kill people and dump their body in a volcano
5:13:39 PM mr_mindblank: Either 1. they think I'm as bad as every other religious person or 2. they know I'm different, but choose to ignore that and lie, just to strengthen their anti-religious theories.
5:13:44 PM gremlin_net: Speaking of smart people: one just EMailed me something important; loafershews will have to wait, or grow smarter.
5:13:47 PM orion314999: presidents get all the fun
5:13:49 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: every president gets three complemetry assasinations
5:13:54 PM loafershews: wrong about right, you are 100 percent sure there is no God, yet you desire to be in this chatroom. this knowledge you have should be shared with the world
5:13:54 PM ali3nsapi3n: volcano
5:13:55 PM jestandillusion: If your greed for power, your passion for anger, will overtake your moral sense of whats just
5:14:04 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: prove your know what your god wants
5:14:11 PM ralph_nadir* thinks mindblank is as bad as every other religious person, but in a sexy way
5:14:15 PM Antihero496: volcano's a best way to get rid of a body. fuck pig farms
5:14:24 PM quaint711312: load - one can be certain - for themselves - just as you are 100% that there is such a critter - for yourself
5:14:33 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: again with the pointless accusations?
5:14:36 PM mr_mindblank: Count on Ralph to find the overlooked third option!
5:14:42 PM waytoomuchof: *baseless accusations
5:14:43 PM loafershews: so who is right if we both are 100 per cent sure
5:14:57 PM quaint711312: loaf it's one of the reason why we both have the right and freedom - to believe as WE SEE FIT
5:15:07 PM rev_baal_the_jesus_slayer: you know what MeanAssPrick, had to say thier made the most sense i've herd all day
5:15:21 PM loafershews: fine, but no one knows for 100 percent sure of heaven and hell do we
5:15:31 PM jestandillusion: you hide behind you "fact is proof" statement, if God did live here on Earth, people would throw rocks at his windows
5:15:37 PM ralph_nadir* throws bacon wrapped shrimp at annie
5:15:47 PM annie_pio_jsh: ralph
5:15:48 PM quaint711312: loaf and what knowledge? one is entitled to their own views - and convictions - that doesn't mean they are true for everyone else though
5:15:49 PM Antihero496: God would probably disguise as a homeless man
5:15:49 PM annie_pio_jsh: As I was saying...
5:15:51 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Read this very slowly. Maybe get a grownup to help. No one's certain whether deities exist. Not me; not you. Stop bearing false witness against my knowledgebase.
5:15:51 PM the_dude_2012: I know what I know and I'm willing to talk about that. But I've undergone a toally "Different Overview" to quote Robert Monroe, I'm not just talking about what I've heard. I'm not in here to get a reaction out of people.
5:15:52 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: that is your assumption. Again, baseless in fact
5:15:58 PM annie_pio_jsh: Mindblank I think we need a Mormon-Muslim international alliance.
5:16:03 PM Antihero496: or a native america, you know, any class of person that's ignored
5:16:04 PM annie_pio_jsh: it will does us both good in the long run
5:16:13 PM annie_pio_jsh: Ralph what happened to regular ol' shrimp
5:16:17 PM loafershews: yes, but your view should be made in cement. either you are 100 percent sure or you are 100 percent wrong
5:16:28 PM ralph_nadir: annie...bacon makes everything better
5:16:41 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Are you one hundred percent sure? Don't lie: I'll know.
5:16:44 PM annie_pio_jsh: ralph i dont even like turkey bacon so no it doesnt make everything better
5:16:46 PM mr_mindblank: Annie: If it's anything like the Atheist Alliance in here, it means we can say the stupidest, meanest things about the other side, and neither of us will step up to challenge it.
5:16:47 PM jestandillusion: are you joking? Gangs shoot the homeless for entertainment. Thats fact
5:16:51 PM quaint711312: loaf why? again - aren't people entitled to their own views? their own opinins?
5:16:52 PM waytoomuchof: loafershews: no. You cannot be sure either way, it's impossible. Believers are just lying
5:16:56 PM quaint711312: opinions*
5:16:58 PM loafershews: Yes, I am
5:17:01 PM magellan004: loafershews I would say that the saints and martyrs knew 100% what they were dying for
5:17:04 PM annie_pio_jsh: mindblank yes, i want that.
5:17:05 PM the_dude_2012: I speculate on certain theological principles, but that's an extension of what I've experienced, and I do know what I know.
5:17:06 PM Antihero496: alright then, a native. he'd be a native
5:17:09 PM jestandillusion: perhaps, if you're a good person, God will show himself, to you
5:17:10 PM annie_pio_jsh: I want to be ignorant and make stupid comments
5:17:16 PM annie_pio_jsh: and call all atheists evil homosexuals.
5:17:37 PM waytoomuchof: jestandillusion: why is your god hiding?
5:17:39 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Okiedokie. Since you're certain, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that your imaginary friend exists, you should be able to tell me a few things about it now.
5:17:45 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: What's it weigh?
5:17:45 PM orion314999: mormon and muslim alliance..sounds like a soccer team
5:17:49 PM mr_mindblank: Annie: So I can say "all atheists are really theists, just molested as children, sexless, and unpopular," and even though you and I both know that's balderdash, we'll let it slide because of our alliance.
5:17:53 PM the_dude_2012: And I know that we have a soul that exists independantly of this physical shell for one thing. That I do know.
5:17:57 PM ralph_nadir: 'evil atheist homosexual' is a three-way redundancy
5:18:00 PM quaint711312: jest I know I'm a good person - but your god-critter is still just a made up children's story
5:18:10 PM annie_pio_jsh: mindblank indeed.
5:18:10 PM loafershews: but other people have to find that out for themselves. I am just saying noone can claim there is a God or not a God. Only our faith in what we believe can make that claim. The only way we will find out is in our death. As far as I know noone has come back from the dead
5:18:11 PM tarigan_007: hi
5:18:17 PM Antihero496: the bible is just a really old chicken soup for the soul book
5:18:20 PM Antihero496: that's all
5:18:21 PM magellan004: mr_mindblank SOunds like the reality series Survivor
5:18:25 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: You never weighed it? I guess that's fair. What colour is it?
5:18:31 PM annie_pio_jsh: ralph i know what was I thinking...it must because i am stupid and ignorant!
5:18:33 PM quaint711312: loaf I have NO faith - therefore - NO god-critter
5:18:36 PM annie_pio_jsh: how redundant of me
5:18:36 PM the_dude_2012: Lots of people have Loafer
5:18:43 PM ralph_nadir* has never watched an episode of Survivor
5:19:01 PM waytoomuchof: loafershews: what does god put in his coffee?
5:19:02 PM loafershews: the bible is real or it is not. I believe it is. You believe its not. we both have faith in our beliefs. I like the idea of eternal life
5:19:03 PM Antihero496: it makes no sense
5:19:09 PM the_dude_2012: Due to modern-day medical resuscitation technology, literally millions of people have died and been brought back to life. The least we can do is take their experiences seriously.
5:19:15 PM quaint711312: the_dude - my mother was relived many times before her final death - never saw anything
5:19:15 PM jentle.persuasion: i know candy!
5:19:17 PM annie_pio_jsh: ralph that's because atheists dont like adventure based reality shows
5:19:18 PM jestandillusion: maybe he's not hiding, you just havent found him yet
5:19:19 PM the_dude_2012: My Descent into Death by Howard Storm is a great example
5:19:21 PM Antihero496: when you die, you rot in the ground
5:19:23 PM mr_mindblank: Magellan: It kind of is. But I keep getting voted off because I turned against my own side and challenge them when they say something patently stupid, something atheists never do to their own side.
5:19:24 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: You never actually saw it? Huh. Perhaps you've heard from it. What sort of accent has it got?
5:19:28 PM jestandillusion: maybe
5:19:30 PM mr_mindblank: challenging*
5:19:37 PM jentle.persuasion: my friend in nc said its alredy getting down into the 30's there at night
5:19:39 PM the_dude_2012: Or, Return from Tomorrow by George Ritchie, or Saved by the Light by Dannion Brinkley
5:19:52 PM magellan004: ralph_nadir Survivor was all about forming alliances with people so that they would not stab you in the back, before you stabbed them
5:20:00 PM jestandillusion: thats like saying I was hiding cause you never met me before
5:20:06 PM ralph_nadir: I occassionally challenge atheists who say something astonishingly stupid
5:20:07 PM the_dude_2012: Or go to the International Association for Near-Death Studies website: www.iands.org
5:20:08 PM jentle.persuasion: i just had some hot wings...omg they were hot
5:20:09 PM ali3nsapi3n: a repub
5:20:21 PM waytoomuchof: the_dude_2012: lots of studies have been done where all of the "near death" crap can be artificially reproduced
5:20:21 PM the_dude_2012: etc etc etc
5:20:26 PM loafershews: so then believe your mom if it makes you feel better
5:20:29 PM gremlin_net: loafershews doesn't seem too certain about Jehovah after all....
5:20:32 PM jentle.persuasion: maybe pope
5:20:35 PM ali3nsapi3n: hi jen
5:20:40 PM jentle.persuasion: hi eym
5:20:41 PM quaint711312: the_dude funny thing about NDE - they are culturally driven - for instance - in Japan the color white is associate with death so no *white light* for them
5:20:43 PM annie_pio_jsh: mindblank i absolutely agree....I often times find myself CHALLENGING muslims who have these views inconsistent with Islam, yet when certain atheists sit there and make ridiculous claims, I often find that other atheists dont challenge their comments
5:20:46 PM magellan004: mr_mindblank reno-montoya used to do it - question the atheists. He was rather inpopular with them
5:20:48 PM mr_mindblank: Ralph: I can't recall seeing you do that, but I believe you.. and, if so, that would put you in a minority of one.
5:20:48 PM the_dude_2012: Way ... Poking a certain spot in somebody's brain might induce a cool dream, but that's not a near-death experience.
5:20:49 PM ali3nsapi3n: hot wings ^ ^ yummmmmmm
5:20:53 PM loafershews: I know God exists by faith, you know God doesnt exists by your faith
5:20:54 PM Antihero496: gonna go make myself some revolutonary reggaeton
5:20:58 PM jentle.persuasion: eym..i had spicy bbq
5:21:02 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: I conclude from your lack of information about Jehovah that you know fuckall about it, including its extant state. Here you go: http://hellbait.DeityFree.com
5:21:04 PM jentle.persuasion: they were sweet and spicy
5:21:06 PM ali3nsapi3n: i havent had them for months!
5:21:07 PM jentle.persuasion: mmmmmm
5:21:09 PM gremlin_net: Lying little devilworshipper....
5:21:17 PM quaint711312: the_dude and in China - dead relatives are a part of every day life - so NO visiting with Aunt Martha after death
5:21:18 PM waytoomuchof: the_dude_2012: then look at what quaint711312 said. Why is the dream dependent on culture?
5:21:26 PM ali3nsapi3n: i like em spicy
5:21:27 PM hal9000servicelogician: loafer; you believe God exists, but you do not know
5:21:35 PM loafershews: what I know doesnt matter, its what you know that matters
5:21:53 PM orion314999: we are excellent bull shitters..nice to be appreciated
5:21:57 PM the_dude_2012: Because like the Tibetan Book of the Dead states, beliefs make up experiences, we create our own worlds and realities based on our thoughts, words, and deeds.
5:21:58 PM hal9000servicelogician: I do not know if there is a god...there might be, but there is no evidence of any, and moreover, the ones humans made up in the past are obsolete
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5:22:04 PM ralph_nadir: mind...the last time I remember doing it was in a Paltalk 'theists vs. rationalists' room, where I called some of the Paltalk regs idiots with an astounding level of historical ignorance for seriously claiming that Christianity makes artistic creativity impossible
5:22:04 PM gremlin_net: Funny thing about faith: it can only exist in the absence of knowledge. If you know a thing, you have no need to believe in it.
5:22:05 PM gremlin_net: If loafershews has faith, then it lied about having knowledge.
5:22:08 PM loafershews: I believe in faith that God exists. I read the bible, I believe in the truths that are written in it.
5:22:09 PM waytoomuchof: loafershews: you seem to know nothing, other than the patter you've been brainwashed with
5:22:17 PM quaint711312: loaf for myself - I know that religion offers me nothing - a belief in a god-critter would in no way help or improve my existance
5:22:34 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: Yeah, Hellbait: you believe; you lied about knowing. Have fun in hell.
5:22:40 PM mr_mindblank: Ralph: Well, then you're actually in a minority of two because I've seen Pigou_Club do that too, now that I recall.
5:22:46 PM waytoomuchof: loafershews: the bible was written by ancient, ignorant men, not god. It isn't his word
5:22:47 PM loafershews: I have free choice. For years I did not believe,
5:22:47 PM magellan004: waytoomuchof That is incorrect . I heard a cardiologist talk about NDE. He said they were common, and lab tests can only replicate one part of NDE. Also, he said NDEs were cross cultural
5:23:01 PM quaint711312: loaf I have no reason to believe
5:23:06 PM gremlin_net: loafershews: You chose to bear false witness against Jehovah? I like you; you're silly.
5:23:11 PM mr_mindblank: Magellan: Nice new chatname, by the way.
5:23:17 PM jestandillusion: the Dudeness is quite right in his perceptions of reality
5:23:19 PM magellan004: mr_mindblank Thanks
5:23:21 PM waytoomuchof: magellan004: they are cross cultural. People see what they are brought up to expect. Proven.
5:23:36 PM jestandillusion: as far as the Tibetian book of the Dead
5:24:00 PM hal9000servicelogician: “Faith is believin’ what you know ain't true.” - Mark Twain
5:24:01 PM magellan004: waytoomuchof Huh? How could people from different backgrouns share a common upbringing?
5:24:13 PM hal9000servicelogician: “Faith may be defined briefly as an illogical belief in the occurrence of the improbable.” Mencken
5:24:18 PM waytoomuchof: magellan004: a cardiologist is hardly an authority on brain functions. I'll stick to what I've seen neurologists say
5:24:25 PM quaint711312: way - like NO Aunt Martha on the other side in China - NO *white room* - NO *white light* - NO *white* anything in Japan
5:24:35 PM gremlin_net: Faith is the contention that a thing is true, despite the lack of supporting evidence.
5:24:45 PM waytoomuchof: quaint711312: exactly
5:24:50 PM mr_mindblank: I wonder what the first person who had a NDE saw.
5:25:13 PM magellan004: julio ok. Another interesting snippet I heard. There is a butterfly that migrates around the world. It takes 3 generations to get back home. Then they start the trip again.
5:25:14 PM orion314999: cave ceiling?
5:25:16 PM jestandillusion: no Gemlin, you speak of false beliefs
5:25:20 PM ali3nsapi3n: lol
5:25:22 PM gremlin_net: mr_mindblank: Lefty, the Divine Smilodon.
5:25:28 PM ralph_nadir: mind...they saw this: http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/pics6/funway/JR-BOB-DOBBS.jpg
5:25:32 PM jestandillusion: Faith is a belief in something
5:25:35 PM jestandillusion: period
5:25:36 PM gremlin_net: jestandillusion: In a technical sense, that's redundant.
5:25:48 PM mr_mindblank: Of all the answers, Ralph's is most terrifying.
5:25:58 PM quaint711312: faith is a belief often in the face of contradictory FACTS
5:26:08 PM jestandillusion: I have faith in kindess
5:26:16 PM jestandillusion: thats not a false belief
5:26:46 PM gremlin_net: jestandillusion: It's a meaningless belief. Kindness isn't quantifiable. But it is subjectively observed.
5:27:04 PM hal9000servicelogician: jatsunrise: I love it when theists point to NDE's as the best evidence for god. It shows how threadbare their evidence is, that they must rely on testimony from the severely injured, in shock, unconscious, anoxic and hallucinating.
5:27:04 PM magellan004: julio- I believe that's possible
5:27:18 PM jestandillusion: quantifiable in measuremant, in a material sense
5:27:26 PM jentle.persuasion: no matt
5:27:26 PM gremlin_net: loafershrew fled. I guess I can go add it now.