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22.03.27 gimaray69: hey everyone!
22.03.29 xiphoid_thanatos* [71] growls
22.03.35 ibtreehuggin: \
22.03.43 owl_khyder* [9] shoots the strobelight
22.03.56 eymcrowscrow: [40] hes from the other side of the traks
22.04.05 xiphoid_thanatos: [72] Nox, Aye back when I was in school we were tested every year, then it change to certain years. Now they rely on literacy and numeracy tests
22.04.10 xiphoid_thanatos: [73] *changed
22.04.13 eymcrowscrow* [41] plugs ears
22.04.21 gimaray69: wow...for a religious room, seems like some of ya'll need to pray through...LOL
22.04.28 marplots: [42] owl, I used to dig the whole celebrity part. Not now.
22.04.33 eymcrowscrow: [42] a little kitty
22.04.39 ibtreehuggin: punk
22.04.42 xiphoid_thanatos: [74] This is a debate room with the topic (sometimes) of religion. Not a "religious room"
22.04.44 marplots: [43] It reminded me of why runners run. They are good at it.
22.04.46 eymcrowscrow: [43] it fit her binger
22.05.02 gremlin_net: [37] I'm not sure i've ever taken the WAIS. I'd have to see the test itself. But it sounds good, based on this.
22.05.04 ibtreehuggin:
22.05.07 ibtreehuggin:
22.05.15 eymcrowscrow: [44] she doesnt want sum of em humpn
22.05.22 eymcrowscrow* [45]
22.05.24 marplots: [44] rev, missed you. I was waiting for your test question.
22.05.31 eymcrowscrow: [46]
22.05.32 owl_khyder: [10] well, a few of the tests they gave me only to wind up having to give me tests for adults ...
22.05.34 gimaray69: call it whatever you want Xiph, still
22.05.37 marplots: [45] rev, that was an anagram, right?
22.05.42 gremlin_net: [38] Or this is a stupid sentence, and WAIS is Wechsler after all. Hard to say.
22.05.54 ibtreehuggin:
22.06.02 ibtreehuggin:
22.06.02 xiphoid_thanatos: [75] gimaray69, REad the room title. So there are people in here that never pray, becuase they aren't religious.
22.06.05 marplots: [46] rev, it would come off better if we had a 'command' tense in English.
22.06.12 owl_khyder* [11] is actually paying more attention to this: http://www.kaname-izakaya.com/default.html
22.06.17 xiphoid_thanatos: [76] *because
22.06.18 marplots: [47] You need to rework your insults in German or Spanish.
22.06.20 gremlin_net: [39] 'Before the WAIS, however, there was the Wechsler Bellevue test' doesn't quite explain much to me.
22.06.29 gimaray69: Xiph, I get it...so do you pray?
22.06.34 owl_khyder: [12] turns out i have a proper japanese restaurant (and not some dodgy sushi bar) two blocks from the international district underground stop ...
22.06.35 xiphoid_thanatos: [77] No
22.06.38 marplots: [48] Type off! Maximum extreme challenge!
22.06.40 gimaray69: why not
22.06.51 ibtreehuggin:
22.07.00 hunter_the_zombiechick: [4] Googling WAIS turns up "Weschler Adult Intelligence Scale."
22.07.03 gimaray69: are you ashamed?
22.07.05 gremlin_net: [40] gimaray69: Why aren't some people religious? Because they're more into sanity.
22.07.05 marplots: [49] No good ones. Just normal ho hum ones.
22.07.06 xiphoid_thanatos: [78] I'm an atheist. Therefore, not religious.
22.07.09 ibtreehuggin: kill bill
22.07.14 marplots: [50] I'm particularly poor at fucking in general.
22.07.17 eymcrowscrow: [47] kill all th bugs
22.07.25 ibtreehuggin:
22.07.26 eymcrowscrow: [48] as many as ya can
22.07.27 marplots: [51] Nope. No fuck fuck for me.
22.07.31 eymcrowscrow: [49] r2d2
22.07.39 gremlin_net: [41] Hunter: That's what I was wondering. So, that's good news.
22.07.43 gimaray69: yeah i know what an atheist is....sorry you feel that way
22.07.45 d1987bberger263: Hello
22.07.48 eymcrowscrow: [50] take both, then smoke one
22.08.03 xiphoid_thanatos* [79] snorts at the dumbass
22.08.03 gremlin_net: [42] Sprcifically, fullscale reliability being .96 is good news.
22.08.07 eymcrowscrow: [51] www.warshemdownwithbeer
22.08.27 owl_khyder* [13] . o O ( speaking of which, this is back in print: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Genius_and_the_Goddess )
22.08.29 hunter_the_zombiechick: [5] Learn to type.
22.08.39 gremlin_net: [43] gimaray69: It doesn't affect much, really. We just don't believe in Zeus. It's not personal.
22.08.48 gimaray69: why I'm I dumb, because I believe there is a God...ok,
22.08.49 ibtreehuggin:
22.08.51 marplots: [52] rev, confused?
22.08.52 ibtreehuggin:
22.08.58 ibtreehuggin:
22.09.15 marplots: [53] rev, so you are.
22.09.17 eymcrowscrow: [52] is that a saucer i heer
22.09.25 gimaray69: I'm not taking anything personally
22.09.48 xiphoid_thanatos: [80] gimaray69, Because you think people that think differently to you deserve pity. It's pathetic and yes, dumb.
22.09.54 gremlin_net: [44] So, that was apparently sneakily parenthetical....
22.09.56 eymcrowscrow: [53] he truggr is que th (silent aych)
22.10.03 ibtreehuggin: <busts a move
22.10.26 eymcrowscrow: [54] yer them
22.10.29 gimaray69: I didn't say a deserved pity, NOR was I throwing pity your way...I just made a statement...that's it.
22.10.52 owl_khyder* [14] preys on small pious children and their parents.
22.10.55 gremlin_net: [45] '22.07.43 gimaray69: yeah i know what an atheist is....sorry you feel that way' <-- implies pity. However misplaced.
22.11.22 xiphoid_thanatos: [81] 2:07:32 PM gimaray69: yeah i know what an atheist is....sorry you feel that way<--- Yes you did
22.11.30 hunter_the_zombiechick: [6] I'm not sure what's worse, the 'sorry you feel that way' or the 'are you ashamed'.
22.11.30 gremlin_net: [46] Pitying people who don't believe in deities is like pitying people who don't believe in goblins.
22.11.46 xiphoid_thanatos: [82] SORRY you feel that way = pity. Now shoo
22.12.35 gimaray69: Gremlin...I get it...ok, I wasn't giving the guy pity, sorry I came across the way...
22.12.52 gimaray69: I get a feeling I'm the ONLY who believes theres a God..WOW
22.13.03 gremlin_net: [47] I might be ashamed if I DID pray. Or wished on stars. Or developed a businessplan based on buying lottery tickets.
22.13.32 owl_khyder* [15] prefers preying on devout people so i can make haste with their belongings.
22.13.51 gremlin_net: [48] gimaray69: Depends on the deity. If it's Jehovah, you're one of close to two billion; if it's Al'lah, you're one of about 1.3billion; and so on.
22.14.17 gimaray69: WOW...ok, the creator of ALL things, for starters
22.14.18 marplots: [54] People say they believe in God, but it's hard to pick that up on a blood test.
22.14.28 hunter_the_zombiechick: [7] No. He's probably right. He's probably the only one who believes in his specific version of whatever brand of 'god' he bought.
22.14.29 xiphoid_thanatos: [83] There are a couple of people in here, that believein a deity. One I see believes in a Goddess for example
22.14.32 marplots: [55] It's hard to know if they aren't just kidding around.
22.14.39 gremlin_net: [49] gimaray69: So, Quetzalcoatl. That makes you one of...a few dozen, at this point.
22.14.48 xiphoid_thanatos: [84] gimaray69, Bumba? What about him?
22.14.53 xiphoid_thanatos: [85] Or you mean Brahman?
22.15.08 gremlin_net: [50] xiphoid_thanatos: Doesn't Quetz predate Bumba?
22.15.16 gimaray69: What 'it' does...ok I believe in Jesus the Almighty God...
22.15.22 marplots: [56] grem, I wonder where David Koresh is on that scale?
22.15.22 gremlin_net: [51] I've lost track: which imaginary friend created everything first....
22.15.37 gimaray69: yes
22.15.41 gimaray69: no
22.15.44 xiphoid_thanatos: [86] Hard to say. So many changes were made to the stories of Bumba, but various AFrican tribes have been worshipping him for a long time. Quetz probably is a bit older
22.15.52 xiphoid_thanatos: [87] gimaray69, Biblically, Jesus was not God. Sorry.
22.15.57 gremlin_net: [52] gimaray69: That's a bit of a contradiction, but okay. Dead terrorist worship; gotcha.
22.16.04 gremlin_net: [53] gimaray69: Why do you believe in that one?
22.16.21 owl_khyder: [16] yeah, but what about nikola tesla?
22.16.37 xiphoid_thanatos: [88] Tesla as a god? Hmmm
22.16.41 gimaray69: Heaven....the third Heaven
22.16.48 marplots: [57] Tesla has some whacky fans, that's for sure.
22.17.00 xiphoid_thanatos: [89] "If I behave now I'll get ice cream later"
22.17.00 owl_khyder: [17] the Official Serbian Church of Nikola Tesla regards him as the divine, you know.
22.17.09 c1985ceriseq541: Hello
22.17.10 marplots: [58] He might be the only celebrity engineer out there.
22.17.12 gimaray69: don't know....I haven't been there, yet...
22.17.20 marplots: [59] St. Nick?
22.17.35 hunter_the_zombiechick: [8] Quetzalcoatl gave us the cocoa tree. He wins.
22.18.01 gremlin_net: [54] It's hard to decide whether to like Tesla. On one hand the guy was clever, and Edison pretty well fucked up; on the other, but for Edison's interference, Tesla might have got his microwave thing working and given everyone cancer
22.18.02 gremlin_net: [55] within a year.
22.18.32 gremlin_net: [56] gimaray69: So, you have no particular reason to makebelieve Jesus over Quetzalcoatl?
22.18.32 marplots: [60] Tesla reminds me of Nobel, but without the whole 'love of mankind' thing.
22.19.05 quaint_the_scarecrow54: Tesla also loved to freak out his neighbors
22.19.09 marplots: [61] dead, I stand corrected then.
22.19.24 marplots: [62] I had this idea of mad scientist in mind.
22.19.50 gimaray69: well, the clouds and the earths atmosphere is considered first Heaven in Bible, 2nd Heaven is where the sun, planets and stars are at....3rd, has never been seen by man...
22.20.05 gimaray69: bc you have to DIE and have God in your heart to get there
22.20.25 marplots: [63] gimara, you believe that? Or are you just funnin?
22.20.35 gimaray69: I believe it....
22.20.37 gremlin_net: [57] gimaray69: That's problematic: I can't have imaginary friends implanted into my heart. It's an HMO thing.
22.20.39 xiphoid_thanatos: [90] Like I said "If I behave now I get ice cream later". Rather sad way to live, imv
22.20.40 marplots: [64] I can't tell.
22.21.07 xiphoid_thanatos: [91] Grem, God is a pacemaker? Not quite in the heart but close-ish...
22.21.18 marplots: [65] gimara, but outside of that, you do all the regular stuff, right? Like go to work, drive sensibly and all the other stuff?
22.21.29 gremlin_net: [58] xiphoid_thanatos: Pacemaker; peacemaker. Tomayto; tomato....
22.21.36 gimaray69: yes, marplots I do
22.21.41 marplots: [66] gimara, me too.
22.22.08 gimaray69: marplots what are you saying? what do you believe in?
22.22.19 marplots: [67] gimara, lots of stuff.
22.22.35 gimaray69: ok, do you believe there is a God
22.22.50 eymcrowscrow: [1] j them koads really startn to suk
22.22.50 xiphoid_thanatos* [92] believes in trying to save this sorry species from primitive insanity
22.22.51 agents_of_octopus:
22.22.53 marplots: [68] gimara, I believe toast is better than raw bread, Fords are better than Chevys and OJ did it.
22.22.55 agents_of_octopus:
22.22.57 owl_khyder: [18] i believe life is too short not to taser someone you love.
22.23.01 owl_khyder: [19] oh, wait, i got that all wrong.
22.23.09 owl_khyder: [20] it's too short not to taser someone you LOATHE.
22.23.10 owl_khyder: [21]
22.23.16 bostonposh: ok
22.23.16 lover_on_the_waste_coast: types "invisionary" just to see
22.23.24 marplots: [69] gimara, Not God so much, no.
22.23.27 bostonposh: what the hell you going on about goose bumps
22.23.28 eymcrowscrow: [2] j i had 3 totally diffrent intense dreams the last 3 nights treehugger
22.23.36 owl_khyder: [22] is "invisionary" sort of like "inflammable"?
22.23.37 xiphoid_thanatos: [93] At least sometimes I do. Othertimes I think becoming a James-Bond-like bad-dude without the dumb is the best way to go
22.23.37 marplots: [70] But I could be wrong. Don't go by my opinion.
22.23.39 gimaray69: I believe life is to short NOT to believe in anything.
22.23.48 lover_on_the_waste_coast: owl...stop drop and roll baby
22.23.57 marplots: [71] I've never had one of those revelations you hear about. So I'm not really qualified on God.
22.23.59 hansomejoseph: Life..what is it? who knows
22.24.11 neurotic_but_erotic: morning/evening peeps
22.24.11 xiphoid_thanatos: [94] Just because people don't swallow your version of a deity, does not mean they don't beleive in anything. And there is a difference between religious faith and believing in something.
22.24.12 expiredemotion: nope
22.24.16 expiredemotion: and hello everyone
22.24.23 gremlin_net: [59] That's what gets me about these people. When someone makebelieves DeityA but not DeityB, without a real reason, it sounds like an impulsebuy. Like 'I got a Ford, because I saw it; it's better than Chevrolet because...look: I already
22.24.24 eymcrowscrow: [3] last night was a shootout, night befor i was flyn a plane and someone kep call and the first a bear killd me in the woods
22.24.24 bostonposh: don't know if this room is any better
22.24.24 gremlin_net: [60] bought the damned thing.'
22.24.32 marplots: [72] There are God experts who know all about God though. They will be happy to tell you anything you want to know.
22.24.41 neurotic_but_erotic: xiph true...u don't have to be religious to be spiritual
22.24.44 eymcrowscrow: [4] j yesturday i woke up yelling asking where julious was
22.24.46 xiphoid_thanatos: [95] And the life is too short thing.. was nonsensical.
22.24.49 marplots: [73] grem, yep.
22.24.51 xiphoid_thanatos: [96] I wasn;t talking spiritual either.
22.24.53 gimaray69: trust me, marplots...I know all I need to know to get where I wanna go when I die....
22.25.03 expiredemotion: so you killed her...and then did her?
22.25.05 eymcrowscrow: [5] j lastnight was a huge swet puddle in my chest and i was drenchd
22.25.09 neurotic_but_erotic: what did u mean xiph?
22.25.12 marplots: [74] gimara, hey, don't commit suicide. You'll die eventually anyways.
22.25.12 hansomejoseph: We're all part of the soup that is the universe.. what is wierd is this part of the soup actually thinks. Ain't that some shiit?
22.25.12 bostonposh: isn't this supposed to be a religion room??
22.25.14 xiphoid_thanatos: [97] A cemetary or crematorium?
22.25.19 eymcrowscrow: [6] j they dont comprehend
22.25.31 marplots: [75] gimara, you should stick around and enjoy life awhile. No need to rush into the afterlife.
22.25.37 hansomejoseph: what is thought?
22.25.41 neurotic_but_erotic: lol huggin
22.25.48 gremlin_net: [61] Pushed for a real explanation, theism breaks down. And you get 'Look: whichever imaginary friend created the universe, that's the one I like!', and everyone's a simplified deist suddenly.
22.25.52 bostonposh: cosmic muffin?
22.25.54 bostonposh: hmm
22.26.00 gimaray69: I have a 4 month old to think about, and people who love me...I'm not selfish enough to take my own life
22.26.03 hansomejoseph: it is a calculator
22.26.03 bostonposh: i make some freakin' cosmic muffins
22.26.04 owl_khyder: [23] no, really, that's a good line but we've heard it along with "aren't you all christians" and "well you should all be talking about religion" ...
22.26.10 eymcrowscrow: [7] j whats it all about
22.26.12 owl_khyder: [24] at least a thousand times. maybe ten thousand.
22.26.15 owl_khyder: [25] you should try harder.
22.26.17 neurotic_but_erotic: angel i certainly havent
22.26.17 marplots: [76] gimara, oh. Sorry. I misunderstood with that death talk.
22.26.17 eymcrowscrow: [8] j all of it
22.26.24 eymcrowscrow: [9] j everything
22.26.25 xiphoid_thanatos: [98] neurotic_but_erotic, I believe muchy peas are vile. No religion or spirtuality. Believing gene therapy is a positive thing is not religious or spiritual either.
22.26.31 marplots: [77] I thought focusing on dying meant you were considering it.
22.26.39 gremlin_net: [62] It doesn't help that most theists are too stupid and selfdeceiving to bother learning that there are more deities than The Good One and The Bad One.
22.26.43 eymcrowscrow: [10] j yew can dew wutvr you want
22.26.48 gimaray69: oh no...I'd never kill myself, I have to much to live for
22.26.48 xiphoid_thanatos: [99] gimaray69, Kill the kid. Then it will be in heaven. -shrugs-
22.26.53 eymcrowscrow: [11] j its more fun
22.27.06 neurotic_but_erotic: oooh i see xiph. i came in the middle of conversation so i didnt know what u were talking about
22.27.11 expiredemotion: i'm with Tree on that one
22.27.15 xiphoid_thanatos: [100] neurotic_but_erotic, No problem
22.27.19 marplots: [78] gimara, that's pretty much the same way I look at retirement. I'll do it someday, and it will be wonderful. But for now, I'm just gonna stick with what seems to be working.
22.27.19 neurotic_but_erotic: so you're an atheist xiph?
22.27.22 c1985ceriseq541: Hello
22.27.23 xiphoid_thanatos* [101] is
22.27.24 eymcrowscrow* [12] . o O ( i pickd up on that too sweets )
22.27.46 eymcrowscrow: [13] j puncture wounds heal well
22.27.47 gimaray69: not funny, Xiph...you seem like a very bitter person....
22.27.48 expiredemotion: i prefer asphyxiation myself
22.27.50 gremlin_net: [63] In a related story, we get wiccans. Those guys are fun. 'I believe in the goddess and the horny one. I mean: not really? But it, you know, really bugs my christworshipping parents? And I get to wear black.'
22.27.50 eymcrowscrow: [14] j slices are nasty
22.27.57 marplots: [79] That's about as far as my imagination will take me. To retirement. I haven't got to death yet.
22.28.21 xiphoid_thanatos: [102] gimaray69, I wasn't being funny. Ig heaven is so much better than earth, and being with god is better than life, then aren't you punishing your family by keeping them alive?
22.28.22 neurotic_but_erotic: lol marplots
22.28.24 xiphoid_thanatos: [103] *If
22.28.26 eymcrowscrow: [15] j theres keys in my weed
22.28.28 marplots: [80] grem, maybe that's how Christianity caught on.
22.28.38 gimaray69: i hear ya marplots...I'm NO WHERE near retirement...I wish though
22.28.38 hansomejoseph: God is an idea.
22.28.42 agents_of_octopus: woman in the dunes
22.28.48 expiredemotion: lmao!
22.28.48 eymcrowscrow: [16] j pain is what makes us focus on the present reality
22.28.56 gremlin_net: [64] I could be a wiccan. But instead I'm colourblind. That's reason enough to wear black. Not that 'I wanted black clothes' wasn't reason enough for the vastly clever.
22.28.57 eymcrowscrow: [17] j ya feel me
22.29.06 neurotic_but_erotic: xiph my understanding of earth is more than that..
22.29.14 eymcrowscrow* [18] little lower
22.29.16 gremlin_net: [65] marplots: It really kinda was. Also, it was painfully simple.
22.29.22 neurotic_but_erotic: i feel that everyone on earth has a purpose, purpose given by god
22.29.27 eymcrowscrow: [19] j weerdo
22.29.37 hansomejoseph: purpose is an illussion.
22.29.40 hunter_the_zombiechick: [9] Great. Full bladder and stubborn lap cat.
22.29.43 marplots: [81] Now that you mention it, I'm kinda hoping that death ends it all. The whole afterlife deal seems like a rip off.
22.29.50 eymcrowscrow: [20] j that road isnt plowd
22.30.11 expiredemotion: lmao!!@love
22.30.12 gimaray69: well, I'm not young to go take my own life,
22.30.13 gremlin_net: [66] Christworship is Diet Judaism. 613 commandments rendered meaningless by the simple tale of the christ coming out of the cave and seeing his shadow and therefore six more millennia of bullshit; but only ten commandments no one has to
22.30.14 gremlin_net: [67] follow.
22.30.18 eymcrowscrow: [21] j 6 beers and 3 pisses so far
22.30.20 marplots: [82] Maybe if you get to have an afterlife afterdeath death, it might work.
22.30.21 xiphoid_thanatos: [104] neurotic_but_erotic, I don't, and I don't have a "Zeus given" purpose. If people want to beleive their "purpose" is given by some deity, fine. But Iwon't accept them telling me mine is.
22.30.30 neurotic_but_erotic: so i think being on earth is definitely relevant. its a beginning of something that lasts in heaven
22.30.32 hansomejoseph: a ball rolling down an incline has no purpose, rather is follows a path that it must
22.30.35 xiphoid_thanatos: [105] hunter, They time it. I swear
22.30.56 eymcrowscrow: [22] j they want me to heat up some lasagna
22.30.58 marplots: [83] gimara, good. Stick around. It's the only way to really build regrets.
22.31.20 gremlin_net: [68] Nothing makes me smirk like hearing christworshippers whimper that they can't have bronze sculptures of the ten commandments in courtrooms. Well, the nine commandments, and that optional thing about graven fucking images.
22.31.23 xiphoid_thanatos: [106] neurotic_but_erotic, I can see how that would work for you. But there are some that claim heaven is so much better, earth is evil and so on. It makes it hard for them to make a case for continuing
22.31.24 xiphoid_thanatos: [107] life. Which is where the churches concoted the whole "test" idea
22.31.35 gimaray69: Marplots I can't tell if your meaning what your telling me in a good or bad way...LOL
22.31.44 eymcrowscrow: [23] j dont let yer necklace dip in the food
22.32.10 neurotic_but_erotic: i don't see it like. i mean..god did make us imperfect
22.32.20 marplots: [84] gimara, I didn't mean it good or bad. More along the shrugging of the shoulders axis.
22.32.27 hansomejoseph: we are not more special than a ball rolling down an incline
22.32.27 gimaray69: baby is crying gotta go...
22.32.29 neurotic_but_erotic: if he wanted us all to be perfect then what would be the purpose of having an earth
22.32.36 seas_of_pity: Sometimes I think life would be far more interesting if certain other belief systems were in place instead of the current ones. I wonder if in 400 years, Piers Anthony 'god' theories will be thought to be true.
22.32.40 gimaray69: nice chattin' with ya'll...I guess....LOL
22.32.51 moni_0070: yes or no ?
22.32.51 xiphoid_thanatos: [108] seas, Now that might be fun.
22.32.52 gremlin_net: [69] That's what makes christworshippers demonstratively stupid. Our deity is the word; the bible is the word; the bible is the deity; we want a graven image of the bible which is the word which is the deity because we're idiots lacking
22.32.53 gremlin_net: [70] linear cognition.
22.32.58 marplots: [85] seas, the Bible as puns?
22.33.14 seas_of_pity: Referring to the tarot trilogy marplots?
22.33.25 marplots: [86] seas, yeah.
22.33.27 hunter_the_zombiechick* [10] feels much better now.
22.33.40 seas_of_pity: I thought I was the only person on the planet that read those.
22.33.40 hunter_the_zombiechick* [11] would like to understand how thermal undergarments work.
22.33.41 marplots: [87] And the on a pale horse... the chronos one... others.
22.33.45 gremlin_net: [71] Cattle that stupid would be killed and discarded, because eating them might be bad for you.
22.33.55 xiphoid_thanatos: [109] neurotic_but_erotic, Well since I don't see a creator I see things a tad differently to that. But I can see the train of thought you have there.
22.33.57 seas_of_pity: Hunter, I would imagine they just trap heat in, no?
22.34.03 neurotic_but_erotic: snoopy i agree with you very smart man
22.34.09 seas_of_pity: I was thinking more of the incarnations tho.
22.34.16 seas_of_pity: Or ben bova's orion concept
22.34.18 hunter_the_zombiechick: [12] Shavaun: yeah, but if you wear them without something else, they're not warm at all.
22.34.22 gremlin_net: [72] gimaray69 ran away. Think I should go add it?
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