A perfect world 2008

12:12:18 PM a_perfect_world_2008: For the last 50 years Americans have been doing nothing but praising evil, so finally, they are going to get it.
12:12:20 PM braided_n_gold: [313] can only give your persception
12:12:27 PM mary_was_no_virgin: but man..give him paper and some numbers to figure up and he is on a roll.
12:12:31 PM femme_politik: [67] I am American. I don't praise evil. Not ever.
12:12:36 PM irreligious_one: just like you suggest god wrote the bible.
12:12:38 PM femme_politik: [68] Let's not generalize, shall we?
12:12:40 PM braided_n_gold: [314]
12:12:44 PM creeksyde2: Indigo! That reminds me. It's almost time for the Indigo Lactarius mushrooms in my friends' woods to pop up. I want to try eating some and usually forget.
12:12:46 PM quaint711312: [25] bye
12:12:49 PM mary_was_no_virgin: or a video game...he is really good with that. figuring out the..i dont even know the word
12:12:55 PM mary_was_no_virgin: technicalities i guess
12:13:02 PM femme_politik: [69] mary: How many chil'runs you got?
12:13:06 PM mary_was_no_virgin: 3
12:13:07 PM gremlin_net: [57] Mary: Of course, Hunter's convinced that I'm autistic. Because I got new shoes. She laced them up all stupid, so I undid them and laced them symmetrically.
12:13:11 PM irreligious_one: Blue Milk?
12:13:13 PM steve_jeeve_01: [65] ahhhhh...he's trolling.
12:13:15 PM a_perfect_world_2008: You can only summon Satan for so long before he winds up at your doorstep.
12:13:18 PM steve_jeeve_01: [66] ok
12:13:32 PM scary_religious_guy: [56] and im also quite sure that God did not inspire the church councils centuries into the Christian era to the degree
12:13:40 PM creeksyde2: irreligious, yes. "blue milkies"
12:13:44 PM irreligious_one: oh then I should move my satanic bible away from the bathroom
12:13:51 PM evolutioncreate: if i told you i was the twiztid sparrow would it send a chill
12:13:54 PM creeksyde2: They are blue and ooze a fluid when cut.
12:13:59 PM irreligious_one: i don't want him showing up while I take a shit
12:13:59 PM scary_religious_guy: [57] that He inspired the apostles --
12:14:04 PM braided_n_gold: [315] shudders
12:14:06 PM braided_n_gold: [316]
12:14:16 PM evolutioncreate: cuz i will
12:14:18 PM dr.pooky: irreligious, indeed, youve been using the pages up for toilet paper.
12:14:19 PM evolutioncreate: i so will
12:14:25 PM scary_religious_guy: [58] you dont see that later era of writers adding much to the canon other than excluding books God might have inspired.
12:14:26 PM evolutioncreate: if i get the chance i will so fucking take it
12:14:31 PM irreligious_one: the satanic bible?
12:14:31 PM bethany5360: HI KALL
12:14:45 PM a_perfect_world_2008: The whole world is aware that there are strange beings that exist, why do you think this country is any different? Like you have a "logical" wall that seperates you from delusions?
12:14:47 PM irreligious_one: nope.
12:14:53 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Doesn't that strike you as a bit presumptious?
12:14:55 PM evolutioncreate: sorry wouldnt want to say something bad to the tribe
12:15:02 PM creeksyde2: Supposedly blue milkies are good tasting mushrooms.
12:15:02 PM evolutioncreate: we know how liked satanists are.
12:15:03 PM scary_religious_guy: [59] so they definitely did not get the same amount of Spiritual influence as say, Paul, or Peter
12:15:06 PM evolutioncreate: very
12:15:07 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: if some huge percentage of the world could be considered to have add or adhd, are we really seeing a deviance? or the status quo?
12:15:13 PM creeksyde2: ...and, of course, easy to identify.
12:15:14 PM irreligious_one: the world is aware of strange beings?
12:15:23 PM evolutioncreate: lol, "leave"
12:15:25 PM mary_was_no_virgin: i dont think as many kids have adhd as we say
12:15:28 PM irreligious_one: no..the world is aware of the claims of a few that these strange beings exist
12:15:32 PM mary_was_no_virgin: they are just being kids, really.
12:15:36 PM braided_n_gold: [317] sam is right...vc is evil
12:15:47 PM evolutioncreate: idc about a did case called lucifer
12:15:52 PM gremlin_net: [58] newage: ADD is a deviance from the status quo, who are expected to stop thinking and get back to work.
12:15:53 PM irreligious_one: but the world itself is not directly aware of strange beings
12:15:54 PM evolutioncreate: that literally cannot control his own will
12:15:55 PM mary_was_no_virgin: kids are stupid spazola's. they are supposed to be weird and do silly things.
12:15:58 PM evolutioncreate: he does that to everyone
12:16:08 PM evolutioncreate: that is literally the holy spirit explanation
12:16:12 PM mary_was_no_virgin: the world is no crazier now than ever before, kall.
12:16:17 PM mary_was_no_virgin: and now we have clean drinking water!
12:16:18 PM mary_was_no_virgin: so.
12:16:22 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> quit fucking preaching.
12:16:23 PM bethany5360: [1] herbal essance
12:16:25 PM a_perfect_world_2008: ADD is "mental fluorosis" check into it if you don't believe me
12:16:31 PM a_perfect_world_2008: it's in the water
12:16:39 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you don't listen to what other people tell you to do.
12:16:49 PM gremlin_net: [59] a_perfect_world_2008: Boring; I already saw Strangelove.
12:16:50 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> wtf would anyone listen to you?
12:16:53 PM evolutioncreate: imagine if you were created perfect. with the comprehension of HEAVEN= physically standing in the throne room.
12:17:06 PM evolutioncreate: and you are found guilty cuz of your own will.
12:17:08 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you don't make arguments...EVER
12:17:12 PM mad.hatter2k: [3] ®
12:17:12 PM evolutioncreate: how are angels robots?
12:17:13 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you preach
12:17:20 PM vanda_pussy: hello alls
12:17:23 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you tell people everything they do is WRONG
12:17:28 PM evolutioncreate: exactly they are not robots, kallac
12:17:29 PM mary_was_no_virgin: we used to give people the death penalty for cheating on their spouse's.
12:17:34 PM mary_was_no_virgin: the world is less crazy now, kall.
12:17:34 PM braided_n_gold: [318] pass that blunt around ned
12:17:38 PM braided_n_gold: [319] break bread
12:17:39 PM irreligious_one: if its not what kallaaac would do...then its wrong
12:17:40 PM mary_was_no_virgin: we dont do that as much.
12:17:41 PM irreligious_one: bullshit
12:17:46 PM mary_was_no_virgin: see?
12:18:01 PM irreligious_one: you take the alleged word of god and melt it into meaning
12:18:02 PM scary_religious_guy: [60] they probably are robots or something analogous
12:18:03 PM mary_was_no_virgin: i skipped a word, but you get the pikshur
12:18:04 PM evolutioncreate: why are they found guilty that fell for the comprehension of heaven= sin=found wanting.
12:18:15 PM irreligious_one: a completely new and personalized meaning
12:18:22 PM scary_religious_guy: [61] Angels do not experience having to faithe in things unseen
12:18:29 PM gremlin_net: [60] Mary: In that sense, it might be crazier now that people getting busted with weed are going to prison for decades.
12:18:30 PM scary_religious_guy: [62] because they can see God directly
12:18:40 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Sin is an intentional doing of wrong despite already knowing better, the animal murders another animal but it isn't guilty of sin.
12:18:40 PM bethany5360: [2] a beginning of life has to start somewhere
12:18:42 PM scary_religious_guy: [63] so they are being taught by man how to do that
12:18:47 PM femme_politik: [70] I argue with the MEN claiming to speak for God. I don't believe claims of divine inspiration.
12:18:50 PM evolutioncreate: if physically human being have free will with sentiency than how much more free will is the angels.
12:18:58 PM evolutioncreate: even more comprhension in heaven
12:18:58 PM mary_was_no_virgin: but less crazy since we have prison, grem..we used to give EVERYONE the death penalty for EVERYTHING!
12:19:00 PM mary_was_no_virgin: SO..
12:19:00 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: people busted with weed dont usually even go to jail unless they are repeat offenders
12:19:01 PM steve_jeeve_01: [67] ned, you MAY be correct, but then again, there is no way to prove to me that all matter and energy truly isn't all part of a very sophisticated intereactive performance via some means of technology.
12:19:01 PM irreligious_one: and then you pretty much address people personally as ignorant children lost on another path in another wilderness from you
12:19:05 PM mary_was_no_virgin: SILVER LININGS!
12:19:07 PM mary_was_no_virgin: heh
12:19:08 PM evolutioncreate: the holy spirit is the comprehend.
12:19:10 PM irreligious_one: and you have no point.
12:19:11 PM femme_politik: [71] new_age_gilgamesh_2004: Pfft. Not in Texas.
12:19:17 PM evolutioncreate: how much more awakeness in heaven
12:19:17 PM gremlin_net: [61] a_perfect_world_2008: It's not guilty of murder, either; murder is by definition a form of homicide.
12:19:18 PM vanda_pussy: hello alls
12:19:19 PM irreligious_one: you have no evidence we are alone
12:19:28 PM gremlin_net: [62] ...or a bunch of crows.
12:19:31 PM irreligious_one: you have no evidence there is or isn't a god
12:19:43 PM mary_was_no_virgin: before goal/prison..you were killed just for stealing bread
12:19:53 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Well that's what animals do Gremlin, a 186.2 in your legal code, a premeditated gang-related homicide, but they don't know any better, therefore they're not guilty of sin.
12:20:04 PM irreligious_one: you have no evidence that the writers of the OT and the NT actually detailed real events as they actually happened.
12:20:21 PM gremlin_net: [63] a_perfect_world_2008: You're talking about criminal insanity?
12:20:27 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Us humans on the other hand know better, everyone is always telling us
12:20:31 PM braided_n_gold: [320]
12:20:35 PM scary_religious_guy: [64] irr, the church i belong to taught about that evidence -- it's in the historiography and documentation of the Bible
12:20:35 PM gremlin_net: [64] I guess not.
12:20:42 PM mary_was_no_virgin: my kids are too young to know that feeling yet, kall. i plan on keeping that way as long as possible too.
12:20:43 PM mary_was_no_virgin: yup
12:20:49 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you take individuality and turn it into a tragedy
12:20:53 PM dagmar_muhammad_macbeth: Irreligious, so what?
12:20:55 PM steve_jeeve_01: [68] LOL!
12:21:07 PM irreligious_one: you can't use the fucking bible to corroborate the fucking bible.
12:21:15 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Oh I forgot, we're "animals"
12:21:25 PM femme_politik: [72] I can see how, if a personal-god-deity exists, it would care about things like murder, or theiving.
12:21:26 PM femme_politik: [73] But homosexuality? Consentual sex in general? Casual drinking or drugs? Nah.
12:21:29 PM nakedguitarplaya: animated apes
12:21:33 PM scary_religious_guy: [65] it's not a "the bible"
12:21:42 PM the_acosmicist: [1] DAH!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
12:21:50 PM scary_religious_guy: [66] it's a collection of books which corroborate one another
12:21:53 PM vanda_pussy: hi room
12:21:53 PM scary_religious_guy: [67] many authors
12:21:55 PM femme_politik* [74] blinks at the_acosmicist
12:21:57 PM gremlin_net: [65] a_perfect_world_2008: Yeah. Humans are mammals. But, inhuman animals are definitively incapable of murder. Even if it's something like anthropophagy.
12:21:57 PM scary_religious_guy: [68] many sources
12:22:00 PM mary_was_no_virgin: ok. kall is condescending again!
12:22:02 PM the_acosmicist: [2] Oh, sorry.
12:22:04 PM nakedguitarplaya* smokes a cigarette with marijuana, mushrooms and salvia
12:22:14 PM femme_politik: [75] kallaaac: Not particularly.
12:22:22 PM braided_n_gold: [321] omg nekid ...dude, get the rock meds
12:22:34 PM braided_n_gold: [322] send help to the nekid man
12:22:36 PM nakedguitarplaya: the rock meds?
12:22:39 PM a_perfect_world_2008: You took a tangent Grem, the point is sin is when a being intentionally does wrong despite already knowing better, kind of this generation.
12:22:39 PM braided_n_gold: [323] yup
12:22:45 PM irreligious_one: no...there are very few independent corroborations outside of those books which were grouped together under a common ideal...the bias is inherent in the editors.
12:22:48 PM braided_n_gold: [324] the med dudes that work rock shows
12:22:50 PM nakedguitarplaya: i smoke all my meds
12:23:02 PM irreligious_one: they chose the books that best fit their mythos
12:23:03 PM scary_religious_guy: [69] name one bunch of editors that doesnt have a bias
12:23:04 PM braided_n_gold: [325] so when ditz overdose, they have a safe place to be
12:23:07 PM mary_was_no_virgin: sapience!
12:23:12 PM mary_was_no_virgin: stop forgetting!
12:23:15 PM scary_religious_guy: [70] name any author that is unbiased
12:23:16 PM the_acosmicist: [3] Someone last night posted a youtube video showing how to smoke booze by using dry ice.
12:23:21 PM mary_was_no_virgin: ha
12:23:21 PM gremlin_net: [66] a_perfect_world_2008: By definition, sinning is just disobeying a deity you worship. Other species being atheistic, of course they're immune to sin.
12:23:44 PM a_perfect_world_2008: not very clever Grem
12:23:55 PM mary_was_no_virgin: if god has a plan, there is no free will.
12:24:00 PM gremlin_net: [67] a_perfect_world_2008: It wasn't meant to be; it's a simple matter of fact.
12:24:02 PM mary_was_no_virgin: but more importantly kall..it doesnt even matter.
12:24:05 PM scary_religious_guy: [71] non sequitur, mary
12:24:07 PM braided_n_gold: [326] annie, your family is going to marry you off to steve
12:24:09 PM braided_n_gold: [327]
12:24:10 PM mary_was_no_virgin: it doesnt matter of god is real.
12:24:11 PM irreligious_one: there's my point..there is a bias...and the bias would be negated and the evidence hardened if significant corroborating evidence existed in places other than the bible.
12:24:22 PM mary_was_no_virgin: hey, they're fun to me, scary
12:24:23 PM nakedguitarplaya: annie and steveSHOULD mate
12:24:24 PM irreligious_one: but the evidence that does exist...is not significant
12:24:26 PM a_perfect_world_2008: You know the old maxim, "As above so below," if you do wrong on earth you go to prison for a term. Same in the afterlife, this generation is dumed.
12:24:31 PM scary_religious_guy: [72] i suppose so
12:24:36 PM mary_was_no_virgin: try it!
12:24:40 PM mary_was_no_virgin: mmm-mmm!
12:24:43 PM mary_was_no_virgin: FLAVOR COUNTRY!
12:24:49 PM gremlin_net: [68] Mary: It matters a little: if deities don't exist, then we're back to looking for a reason for the RedSox winning the series a few years ago.
12:24:52 PM scary_religious_guy: [73] some of us Christians are not Calvinistic determinists though
12:25:00 PM mary_was_no_virgin: i get it kall. and you telling me i dont doesnt make it so.
12:25:05 PM subtle_epitaph: the old "Can a god that knows the future be all powerful, since he can't change his mind?" right Mary?
12:25:06 PM mary_was_no_virgin: see..i say that for me. not you for me.
12:25:08 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Oh I forgot yet again, the "afterlife don't exist" please forgive me for being "stuck in the caveman days"
12:25:14 PM mary_was_no_virgin: this is where you show yur stupid off
12:25:18 PM gremlin_net: [69] a_perfect_world_2008: I've seen no evidence, or even credible process for an afterlife.
12:25:28 PM femme_politik: [76] kallaaac: Do you ever read your posts and think "Damn, I come off like an arrogant douche"?
12:25:30 PM scary_religious_guy: [74] God can know the future and change the future
12:25:32 PM irreligious_one: ignorance is not failing to observe the bible as the word of god...ignorance is failing to question it.
12:25:34 PM a_perfect_world_2008: What about millions of people's testimonies, is that evidence of anything to you?
12:25:36 PM gremlin_net: [70] a_perfect_world_2008: Also, I do wrong on Earth all the time; I've never even been arrested.
12:25:38 PM femme_politik: [77] "One day you will see things MY way. And realize you were ignorant."
12:25:40 PM mary_was_no_virgin: all right. yur doing that thing again when you make me a non person.
12:25:42 PM nakedguitarplaya: death is confusing
12:25:43 PM femme_politik: [78] I mean, seriously?
12:25:45 PM gremlin_net: [71] a_perfect_world_2008: Not really
12:25:45 PM scary_religious_guy: [75] that's one of the neat things about being God
12:25:46 PM mary_was_no_virgin: a character in yur poorly written book, kall.
12:25:52 PM mary_was_no_virgin: yur not being realistic.
12:25:59 PM the_acosmicist: [4] the_federal_reserve_is_fraud: What if we were all plugged into a supercomputer,
12:26:02 PM the_acosmicist: [5] e
12:26:06 PM vanda_pussy: hello alls
12:26:20 PM dagmar_muhammad_macbeth: Irreligious, not quite. That would be rigid dogmatism; akin to Gremlin's unfailing dogmatism.
12:26:31 PM femme_politik: [79] vanda_pussy: You've said hi like 4 times. HI. HELLO. HOLA.
12:26:32 PM subtle_epitaph: God cannot change the future if he knew it from the start; god can only have one plan, otherwise they would conflict
12:26:36 PM a_perfect_world_2008: I can't believe I'm arguing with a bunch of atheists I'd never take the time in real life ... this is why I'm going to cancel the net.
12:26:44 PM scary_religious_guy: [76] God cannot what?
12:26:45 PM gremlin_net: [72] dagmar_muhammad_macbeth: Okay, you boring troll: prove that I maintain any dogma at all; don't be wrong....
12:26:46 PM femme_politik: [80] Cancel the net? @_@
12:26:50 PM scary_religious_guy: [77] God can anything.
12:26:56 PM braided_n_gold: [328] it's the ned n steve hour
12:26:57 PM the_acosmicist: [6] the_federal_reserve_is_fraud: There's an agent behind you. Don't look.
12:27:00 PM irreligious_one: if you can question it...have to ask for evidence and not get any that satisfies, that can be communicated and shared without contradiction in interpretation
12:27:00 PM a_perfect_world_2008: yep Femme, it is time
12:27:05 PM the_acosmicist: [7] the_federal_reserve_is_fraud: Just... jump.
12:27:05 PM scary_religious_guy: [78] Like i said before, that's one of the neat things about being God.
12:27:13 PM braided_n_gold: [329] steps
12:27:14 PM mary_was_no_virgin: yur acting like you have a corner on some secret knwledge again.
12:27:16 PM gremlin_net: [73] a_perfect_world_2008: Don't worry: you're not arguing with atheists; you're contradicting; arguments involve logical points.
12:27:18 PM mary_was_no_virgin: it isnt attractive.
12:27:19 PM femme_politik: [81] a_perfect_world_2008: You know ... there are thousands of pro-religion websites, chat rooms and forums you could visit instead,
12:27:19 PM scary_religious_guy: [79] God can contradict logic and upset the laws of physics and time
12:27:19 PM femme_politik: [82] if you only like to talk with likeminded people.
12:27:22 PM irreligious_one: then you probably shouldn't have faith that things are as you believe them to be
12:27:26 PM scary_religious_guy: [80] He set those in motion in the first place.
12:27:32 PM braided_n_gold: [330]
12:27:34 PM mary_was_no_virgin: you need to pretend yur a better person than most alone again i think.
12:27:43 PM irreligious_one: you have no evidence that god exists let alone possesses such power
12:27:50 PM a_perfect_world_2008: ah, I see, well be careful following that line of logic, might leave you someplace you didn't plan on venturing towards.
12:27:51 PM osirianmasculo: [1] And The Adventure Begins! ...Fuckers
12:27:53 PM mary_was_no_virgin: when yur sick of being alone, yul get over that crap
12:27:54 PM mary_was_no_virgin: the end
12:27:56 PM scary_religious_guy: [81] www.resurrectionism.com irr
12:28:03 PM irreligious_one: god defies logic in your head...not in reality
12:28:10 PM braided_n_gold: [331] let me tell you a little story of a man named ned...poor lil dude, couldn't get what he wanted from steve
12:28:21 PM the_acosmicist: [8] scary_religious_guy: so... god CAN create a burrito so hot that even he cannot eat it.
12:28:33 PM gremlin_net: [74] a_perfect_world_2008: I assume you're being metaphorical. Or psychotic.
12:28:34 PM mary_was_no_virgin: wow julio
12:28:35 PM scary_religious_guy: [82] acosmicist
12:28:36 PM scary_religious_guy: [83] yets
12:28:37 PM gremlin_net: [75] Maybe both.
12:28:38 PM mary_was_no_virgin: wtf are you talking about?
12:28:39 PM scary_religious_guy: [84] er, yes
12:28:44 PM dead_snoopy: "dont think, feel" adolf hitler
12:28:46 PM a_perfect_world_2008: I doubt that Kall
12:28:47 PM scary_religious_guy: [85] He can limit His own power
12:28:57 PM irreligious_one: you believe in an untangible reality that can be touched through belief...it's self-contradictory!
12:28:58 PM osirianmasculo: [2] can man create a god so big even man can not understand it
12:29:06 PM the_acosmicist: [9] scary_religious_guy: And... He can will himself into non-existence.
12:29:12 PM scary_religious_guy: [86] He can resign from being God, which is effectively what Jesus did when he incarnated in Mary's womb
12:29:22 PM subtle_epitaph: Uncommon: if power is limited, it is by definition NOT all powerful
12:29:28 PM gremlin_net: [76] osirianmasculo: Technically not. For that, it would have to remain unfinished, like Jehovah, et al.
12:29:30 PM dead_snoopy: dink, can man create bullshit so big he cant even shovel it? yes
12:29:43 PM scary_religious_guy: [87] who said God is all-powerful?
12:29:53 PM scary_religious_guy: [88] the Bible just says God is most high.
12:29:58 PM gremlin_net: [77] scary_religious_guy: Some powerless guy.
12:29:59 PM osirianmasculo: [3] Grem, well, it would explain some religious sects/cults beh eh what ever man
12:30:01 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> how come you are unable to defeat them?
12:30:01 PM the_acosmicist: [10] kallaaac: I'm being facetious.
12:30:07 PM osirianmasculo: [4] Snoop, aye
12:30:14 PM nakedguitarplaya: man can have his head so far up his own ass, he cant see shit
12:30:20 PM mary_was_no_virgin: hahaha@burp!
12:30:22 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you don't even answer the questions posed to you.
12:30:25 PM subtle_epitaph: Yeah; iron chariots can defeat god... they did in fact, look it up
12:30:32 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Berlinski in, "The Devil's Delusion" completed destroys any atheist's line of "logic" within the first 10 pages. Yet they continue on as if hitchens and dawkins are worth anything at all
12:30:33 PM scary_religious_guy: [89] i think God is all powerful if He feels like it, and not when He doesnt feel like it.
12:30:38 PM dead_snoopy: ufos probably caused a few religions
12:30:42 PM irreligious_one: kallaaac> you don't even try!
12:30:57 PM subtle_epitaph: I wonder how god would fare against a modern tank; I mean if iron chariots were too much...
12:31:00 PM gremlin_net: [78] a_perfect_world_2008: What line of 'logic' do you use to decline to believe in Zeus?
12:31:07 PM the_acosmicist: [11] God had to yell for Adam, because he couldn't find him, in the garden of Eden after they ate the fruit. Look it up.
12:31:08 PM nakedguitarplaya: ufos and hallucinations
12:31:08 PM osirianmasculo: [5] nakedguitarplaya, heh that was funny
12:31:13 PM osirianmasculo: [6] delayed reaction on my part
12:31:16 PM irreligious_one: all you do is qualify yourself as a believer and not as a knower.
12:31:16 PM dead_snoopy: now since i have 2 astronauts on my side talking about the ufo cia cover up
12:31:18 PM mary_was_no_virgin: aight den. store run, folks. see ya in an hour or two!
12:31:22 PM ondoher2* is back
12:31:25 PM mary_was_no_virgin: be well, all!
12:31:29 PM osirianmasculo: [7] be sagfe Maryz
12:31:30 PM dead_snoopy: cooper and mitchell
12:31:30 PM nakedguitarplaya: thaks osirian
12:31:31 PM chan_tee_meng: you guys following the lame olympics
12:31:35 PM osirianmasculo: [8] safe
12:31:35 PM a_perfect_world_2008: try readin the first 10 pages of that book Grem if you want to see how atheists have been totally duped and debunked
12:31:36 PM dead_snoopy: there might be more
12:31:36 PM scary_religious_guy: [90] God knew where Adam was. God wanted Adam to figure that out.
12:31:38 PM gremlin_net: [79] subtle_epitaph: I guess we'll never know, if iron chariots exterminated the meaningless little thing.
12:31:48 PM gremlin_net: [80] a_perfect_world_2008: Try answering the direct question, Troll.
12:31:54 PM irreligious_one: because if what you possessed amounted to knowledge of god and the way to god...then you could transmit that knowledge in a way that couldn't be contradicted
12:31:57 PM chan_tee_meng: the combat sports featured in the olympics really suck
12:32:05 PM dagmar_muhammad_macbeth* Gremlin, ah. Your snappy appeals to science are dogmatic - rigidly dogmatic. You speak as if those appeals redound to your credit. Not today, of course, but in the past when you and I had a dialogue.
12:32:09 PM creeksyde2: <--- again wonders if the frozen bigfoot in Georgia is real.
12:32:10 PM chan_tee_meng: note to gremline: lots of top thinkers are christians
12:32:14 PM a_perfect_world_2008: I see, getting upset, how telling, be careful of the book Grem, it's out there, waiting for you
12:32:24 PM the_acosmicist: [12] chan_tee_meng: Irrelevant.
12:32:30 PM scary_religious_guy: [91] irreligious, which would obviate faith, not create stretch room for faith to operate.
12:32:37 PM osirianmasculo: [9] ug, slimey effen drooly spit, why is it that kind of spit after the dentist, is it cause of the blood? does that make the saliva gooeyer?
12:32:43 PM dead_snoopy: god / creation explanation is a thinking stopper which is the curche's real goal, stopping thinking
12:32:46 PM gremlin_net: [81] a_perfect_world_2008: I take it from your inability to explain your logic that you must worship Zeus. Instead, explain why you decline to believe in Jehovah.
12:32:47 PM scary_religious_guy: [92] God limits the knowledge He gives of Himself to man because He wants man to trust Him for the rest of it.
12:32:53 PM dead_snoopy: same as it ever was
12:32:53 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: i don't think logic can disprove zeus. was that the question?
12:32:57 PM chan_tee_meng: Acos: for startes Richard Swinburne is an Orthodox Christian
12:33:08 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Berlinski, who wrote the book, isn't even a theist, he's a scientist
12:33:09 PM dagmar_muhammad_macbeth: Chan, and a philosopher of science.
12:33:11 PM scary_religious_guy: [93] and that's part of why the tree of knowledge was off limits
12:33:11 PM the_acosmicist: [13] chan_tee_meng: Irrelevant.
12:33:12 PM subtle_epitaph: Chan Tee meng: 93% of the national academy of science (read: top thinkers) are atheists
12:33:16 PM gremlin_net: [82] dagmar_muhammad_macbeth: Not proof. Too bad.
12:33:16 PM chan_tee_meng: why wont dawkins debate swinburne?
12:33:21 PM nakedguitarplaya: steve is soooo evil
12:33:22 PM gremlin_net: [83] And dagmar_muhammad_macbeth goes to hell for violating I Thessalonians 5.21 for its dark lord satan
*** dagmar_muhammad_macbeth will be ignored for 9999 days.
12:33:30 PM scary_religious_guy: [94] God wanted Adam to ask Him questions, not get it guaranteed from a tree.
12:33:31 PM chan_tee_meng: yeah dagmar are you a christian?
12:33:32 PM a_perfect_world_2008: he'll tear your logic into shreds, within the first 10 pages ..... that's a fact.
12:33:39 PM osirianmasculo: [10] New, ofcorse there was zeus, you think they'd still carry on the olympics if there waznt
12:33:46 PM dead_snoopy: red heron? i think its herring
12:33:48 PM pompous_ass1: I am awake!~
12:33:58 PM scary_religious_guy: [95] if you know everything God knows, you can never trust God for the things you dont know.
12:33:59 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: hey, "dark lord satan" is what stairway to heaven says if you play it backwards
12:34:00 PM nakedguitarplaya: what was zeuses warrior daughters name?
12:34:00 PM gremlin_net: [84] a_perfect_world_2008: There are theistic scientists, however ironic that might sound. Are there any deities you decline to believe in?
12:34:03 PM osirianmasculo: [11] pompous_ass1, happy um, er, being awake day
12:34:06 PM nakedguitarplaya: trivia
12:34:17 PM chan_tee_meng: not all scientists are 'top thinkers' such just push test tubes around..it doesnt make them great...by that standard i know many women who are scientists
12:34:21 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: athena, naked?
12:34:22 PM scary_religious_guy: [96] that's why angels did not know faith, and why man becomes the expert in faith.
12:34:23 PM osirianmasculo: [12] nakedguitarplaya, um Athena?
12:34:31 PM nakedguitarplaya: yes new age, u win
12:34:32 PM femme_politik: [83] a_perfect_world_2008: He will tear atheists up, and you agree with him, but can't put it into your own words?
12:34:33 PM irreligious_one: knowledge obviates faith. you do not need to have faith that apples fall from trees...it can be expected to happen when they're ripe and heavy enough to fall on their own.
12:34:36 PM subtle_epitaph: Kallaaac: that's fine for you to say, I'm an atheist, and I'm not embarrassed by Richard Dawkins in the least; he's a brilliant biologist
12:34:40 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: haha osi i win
12:34:41 PM dead_snoopy: olympics was to celebrate zeus not make little chinese girls get fractures and messed up knees for life
12:34:47 PM pompous_ass1: <--happy atheist that is not a democrat!~
12:34:47 PM nakedguitarplaya: sorry osirian, u were too slow
12:34:52 PM chan_tee_meng: if you guys think youre tough step into the ring with swinburne
12:34:56 PM chan_tee_meng: you'll get owned
12:34:56 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Sure I can, it's very simple really, nothing science has done yet in the least, has suggested that there is no Creator.
12:34:56 PM osirianmasculo: [13] bows not so gracefully
12:35:00 PM scary_religious_guy: [97] im not talking about a total lack of knowledge irr
12:35:04 PM irreligious_one: but god...either you have faith that he exists in an utter lack of material evidence of existence
12:35:04 PM gremlin_net: [85] femme_politik: The first ten pages slaughtered a_perfect_world_2008's ability to think, or answer simple questions in chatrooms.
12:35:08 PM nakedguitarplaya* curtsies
12:35:11 PM piratessa15: Pomp is here??
12:35:12 PM scary_religious_guy: [98] im talking about perfect knowledge
12:35:21 PM femme_politik: [84] a_perfect_world_2008: ... of course not. Science isn't concerned with the unmeasurable. It isn't concerned with "god" or magic.
12:35:24 PM pompous_ass1: Tessa...wtf are you doing here?!~
12:35:27 PM osirianmasculo: [14] I said it first on my screen, but eh I don't give a crap
12:35:28 PM piratessa15:
12:35:32 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Dawkins wanted to act like science had done something to disprove religion entirely, and the duped masses ran 100 yards downfield with it
12:35:32 PM scary_religious_guy: [99] if you have that, you dont need faith, indeed you cant have faith
12:35:32 PM pompous_ass1: This is my first time here.
12:35:36 PM kaiteflynn: [1] hi pomp - hi tessa
12:35:39 PM gremlin_net: [86] a_perfect_world_2008: That one was really simple. Are there any deities which you decline to believe in. Yes or No. Just guess if you're not sure.
12:35:39 PM a_perfect_world_2008: to the rest of the world's entertainment I might add
12:35:41 PM piratessa15: oh..well then, welcome..
12:35:47 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: there is no perfect knowledge. all knowledge only teaches you to think differently, not particularly "more"
12:35:48 PM piratessa15: Shakti too?!?!
12:35:51 PM femme_politik: [85] kallaaac: The measurable. Right.
12:35:52 PM pompous_ass1: Oh hell...did you guys give up on the buddhists?
12:35:55 PM chan_tee_meng: swinburne = philosopher of science highly decorated...PPe at oxford first class honors....he earned top honors for his other degrees ..regarded as one of the world's top experts in confirmation theory utilizing bayesian analysis
12:36:01 PM kaiteflynn: [2] I come here once in a while - nothing going on in buddhist room
12:36:03 PM scary_religious_guy: [100] you see faith operates with one foot in the realm of the unknown and unknowable
12:36:07 PM kaiteflynn: [3] cleric flooded it before
12:36:13 PM piratessa15: no, I still enjoy buddhism
12:36:15 PM scary_religious_guy: [101] and this is why even Jesus was surprised by some expressions of faith
12:36:21 PM chan_tee_meng: swinburne - emeritus nolloth professor of the philosophy of the christian religion at oxford
12:36:25 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: one does not "add mass" to brain capacity by adding knowledge
12:36:25 PM piratessa15: Rasp...
12:36:26 PM osirianmasculo: [15] a super large front does't make you easier to see, but it does make it easier to ignore
12:36:26 PM pompous_ass1: I usually go pester the pagans if the buddha room is slow.
12:36:30 PM irreligious_one: you are talking about an absolute ideal...perfect knowledge, without providing evidence that that absolute or any absolute for that matter can exist in what we term reality.
12:36:31 PM subtle_epitaph: He's not a theologist, and never claimed to be; however you don't need to be a theologist to understand why it's fairly well impossible that god exists
12:36:37 PM chan_tee_meng: swinburne is superior to william lane craig..vastly so...
12:36:37 PM ned_the_negroid: emeritus was a god awful philosopher
12:36:40 PM nakedguitarplaya* was jammin with some ol new zealander in a bhuddism room last night
12:36:44 PM scary_religious_guy: [102] He did not know that Samaritan woman was going to so put her trust in him the way she did
12:36:46 PM kaiteflynn: [4] hahaha pomp
12:36:47 PM bijan2689: god is dead guys, we atheists murdered him
12:36:47 PM piratessa15: oh?
12:36:50 PM gremlin_net: [87] a_perfect_world_2008 must be thinking really, really hard.
12:36:51 PM piratessa15: naked?
12:36:58 PM nakedguitarplaya: well, i was naked
12:36:59 PM chan_tee_meng: look at swinburne's detailed academic qualifications
12:37:01 PM piratessa15: lol
12:37:02 PM nakedguitarplaya: i duno bout him
12:37:02 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: i agree emeritus wasn't that good
12:37:04 PM dead_snoopy: bijan, it was self defense
12:37:04 PM piratessa15: Ned,
12:37:06 PM chan_tee_meng: dawkins has no balls to debate swinburne
12:37:08 PM irreligious_one: imagination that converts to belief does not establish any form of existence
12:37:19 PM pompous_ass1: I'm not a big fan of the god fearin' rooms...as my buddhist counterparts are aware.
12:37:20 PM gremlin_net: [88] newage: Are you seeing this? a_perfect_world_2008 seems to offset my IQ and return the average to 100 after all.
12:37:24 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Science has done nothing at all to show that religions are for the illogical, they are contradicting science itself with that perspective in fact.
12:37:29 PM chan_tee_meng: seriously ..and swinburne is a christian..an orthodox christian
12:37:33 PM dead_snoopy: ok
12:37:34 PM scary_religious_guy: [103] and God Himself created the universe by faith, He did not know that it would come out as well as it did, except in theory,
12:37:34 PM wniston: joined the room
12:37:37 PM scary_religious_guy: [104] before He did it
12:37:37 PM irreligious_one: only when a belief is tested positively against evidence does it enter what we term reality.
12:37:40 PM kaiteflynn: [5] this room is one of the better ones pomp, it is an interesting room
12:37:41 PM steve_jeeve_01: [69] raputin, ned is on some 'cid and pot
12:37:43 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: gremlin if that were true you'd have no desire to compete
12:37:46 PM chan_tee_meng: dawkins will be killed in a debate
12:37:46 PM osirianmasculo: [16] I'm going to get Grem a hat that says " go on, ask me my IQ"
12:37:49 PM irreligious_one: and become knowledge
12:37:51 PM steve_jeeve_01: [70] rasputin, he already told us, lol.
12:37:56 PM the_acosmicist: [14] I'm not saying it's impossible that deities exist. I'm not saying deities do not exist. I'm saying, "Are you kidding me?"
12:37:57 PM gremlin_net: [89] a_perfect_world_2008: Close, but wrong. You're stabbing for Yes, or No. Just...go with whichever you think you'd prefer to eat; we're outta paintchips.
12:37:58 PM nakedguitarplaya: im sorry , but im not interested in gold mines, oil wells, shipping and real estate
12:37:59 PM chan_tee_meng: dawkins hitchens sam harris and the other village atheists
12:38:02 PM piratessa15: Ned, really?
12:38:05 PM scary_religious_guy: [105] if He absolutely knew how the universe would develop then He didnt do it with faith
12:38:06 PM piratessa15: it will
12:38:09 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Berlinski will do a mental drive by on any of the militant atheists
12:38:14 PM gremlin_net: [90] newage: Who told you that?
12:38:16 PM chan_tee_meng: yeah you dont need swinburne to destroy dawkins
12:38:17 PM scary_religious_guy: [106] and Hebrews 11 says He used faith.
12:38:17 PM irreligious_one: if if if
12:38:17 PM osirianmasculo: [17] dawkins is a fucking screwball
12:38:18 PM steve_jeeve_01: [71] it means the cops are comin' soon, ned.
12:38:20 PM piratessa15: its a mind expanding drug..
12:38:21 PM chan_tee_meng: craig is enough
12:38:22 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: personal insight
12:38:25 PM gremlin_net: [91] a_perfect_world_2008: Wrong again. Guess before you starve.
12:38:32 PM piratessa15* hrrmmss
12:38:35 PM chan_tee_meng: dawkins is good-looking personable..what not..yeah
12:38:36 PM subtle_epitaph: Dagmar: why should the question of the existence of god not be open to debate to those who aren't "theologists"
12:38:38 PM pompous_ass1: Bah...I won't be able to tolerate all the delusional beliefs flying around for long....
12:38:38 PM annie_pio_js: I hate PIs
12:38:46 PM osirianmasculo: [18] Annie
12:38:47 PM chan_tee_meng: but craig will finish him off..
12:38:47 PM scary_religious_guy: [107] think about what that does to omnipotence and omniscience -- faith trumps both of them
12:38:47 PM nakedguitarplaya: lol
12:38:53 PM irreligious_one: if you have to say "if he absolutely knew" pretty much obviates any form of knowledge existing at this point.
12:38:55 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: when i know someone is less capable by a wide margin i don't compete with them
12:38:55 PM piratessa15: Pomp! bring it!
12:39:05 PM nakedguitarplaya: hmmm
12:39:06 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: only if i have doubt
12:39:10 PM dead_snoopy: it magnifies whats there potentially, all things in moderation
12:39:10 PM subtle_epitaph: I'm not a fairyologist, but I have a pretty good idea that there are no such things as fairys; same applies to god
12:39:20 PM pompous_ass1: Should we woop some god fearin' ass toady, Tess?
12:39:23 PM chan_tee_meng: of course craig isnt in swinburne's league.....but my point is that craig would easily polish off dawkins
12:39:23 PM gremlin_net: [92] newage: Your personal insight, as someone dumber than I am, is that I, being smarter than you, would decline to argue? That's what you're arguing, with, in fact, me?
12:39:27 PM nakedguitarplaya: i have an ounze of shroomies to go down a rabbit hole with
12:39:29 PM piratessa15:
12:39:33 PM osirianmasculo: [19] I don't compete because there is no compitition
12:39:41 PM osirianmasculo: [20] someone sp ck that I can't find the sp ck
12:39:44 PM candycoatedmonkey: [1] 37!!
12:39:46 PM piratessa15: naked! can I come over???
12:39:47 PM candycoatedmonkey: [2] 20!!
12:39:50 PM chan_tee_meng: these dumb atheists dont understand what or who they are up against..they fight cheap strawmen..
12:39:51 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: well, gremlin, yes. i suppose
12:39:51 PM scary_religious_guy: [108] subtle, if i still had my UFO thesis in one piece, i could show you how that topic relates to UFO abduction
12:39:55 PM chan_tee_meng: they think we're fundies...
12:39:55 PM a_perfect_world_2008: take care Kall lol
12:39:57 PM chan_tee_meng: we're not
12:39:57 PM piratessa15: kallacc
12:39:58 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: by your understanding of it, yes
12:39:59 PM nakedguitarplaya: sure pirate, u like bunnies?
12:40:03 PM irreligious_one: you are fully engaged in a lifestyle of wishful thinking.
12:40:03 PM chan_tee_meng: were serious christians
12:40:05 PM dead_snoopy: dinoasaurs killed by volcanos heating oceans and making bad bacteria that farted and killed land animals
12:40:06 PM piratessa15: yes
12:40:07 PM scary_religious_guy: [109] for which there is rather abundant circumstantial evidence now
12:40:10 PM chan_tee_meng: serious reflective christians
12:40:18 PM evolutioncreate: u cannot make me leave.
12:40:19 PM subtle_epitaph: Standards apply only if the basis for your debate is given to be true; you assert that there is a god, and that theology is a genuine field of study... I disagree on both counts
12:40:22 PM gremlin_net: [93] newage: So, your argument, in which you're underqualified to decline to argue, is that I, being overqualified to argue, wouldn't by a nature you can only guess after.
12:40:23 PM nakedguitarplaya: kool ill make tea
12:40:30 PM osirianmasculo: [21] Snoop, the asteroid hit and ignited the methane
12:40:34 PM the_acosmicist: [15] chan_tee_meng: Still, you believe in things that you're not able to show exists.
12:40:38 PM the_acosmicist: [16] exist*
12:40:42 PM piratessa15: well, you know they will..
12:40:45 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: no, that is circular reasoning gremlin.
12:40:47 PM pompous_ass1: The theists are so deluded by their ignorant falacies that they have faith they are winning....but the truth is, like everything else spiritual....they don't really know.
12:40:51 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: you are begging the issue
12:40:51 PM a_perfect_world_2008: When I was a mindless Jesus-basher in 2004, i'll admit I was a fundy then Chan, but not now.
12:40:54 PM gremlin_net: [94] newage: Not at all. Read it again.
12:40:58 PM dead_snoopy: some asteroids might have done something but its mainly giant volcanos
12:40:59 PM chan_tee_meng: i dont know read swinburne's masterful 'the existence of god'..
12:41:00 PM piratessa15: they've got vested interest in the path that runs thru there..
12:41:02 PM the_acosmicist: [17] chan_tee_meng: You can believe what you want to believe. It doesn't make you any less of a person.
12:41:07 PM kaiteflynn: [6] study god
12:41:09 PM scary_religious_guy: [110] subtle, it was proved to me God exists through the evidence related to the resurrection of Christ
12:41:12 PM braided_n_gold: [332] wb tessa
12:41:17 PM chan_tee_meng: oxford university press...2nd edition 2004
12:41:19 PM the_acosmicist: [18] Just... get over it. We don't buy it/
12:41:20 PM kaiteflynn: [7] that's like studying thought
12:41:22 PM scary_religious_guy: [111] that's what www.resurrectionism.com treats on
12:41:22 PM chan_tee_meng: the existence of god..
12:41:23 PM piratessa15: Braided, thanky
12:41:24 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: i read it, i'm fine. it's based on your assumption of aptitude, which is ,,, lacking
12:41:27 PM gremlin_net: [95] a_perfect_world_2008: Tell you what: I'll make this easier. Do you worship Quetzalcoatl? Answer either No, or troll off and say anything else for Yes.
12:41:29 PM creeksyde2: People fairly evenly matched could have some healthy competition, but a clearly superior human would need to accept his resposibility to assist and educate the others..
12:41:32 PM osirianmasculo: [22] I read it, the last part is all fucked up
12:41:35 PM irreligious_one: circumstancial evidence...ie sighting of UFOs..which a UFO is "Unidentified Flying Object"...and because it is called that...doesn't mean its an extraterrestrial vessel flown by space aliens
12:41:36 PM nakedguitarplaya* cant wait till u guys see the meteor
12:41:39 PM braided_n_gold: [333] you couldn't stand being away from the insanity eh?
12:41:44 PM piratessa15: naked yea!
12:41:47 PM gremlin_net: [96] newage: Do you know people smarter than you but dumber than me who are disinclined to argue?
12:41:52 PM pompous_ass1: Um...you can't study god.....do you know why? I do. Cuz their is no god.
12:41:55 PM braided_n_gold: [334] osi...hope you're feeling a lil better
12:41:57 PM chan_tee_meng: ok then heres another approach..just feel in your heart
12:41:57 PM piratessa15* has been looking
12:42:00 PM chan_tee_meng: let jesus speak to you
12:42:05 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: gremlin with the level of understanding you claim to have, you wouldn't feel the need to argue about stuff like that.
12:42:06 PM osirianmasculo: [23] wouldn't by a nature you can only guess after.= would not by a nature can only guess after= wtf
12:42:10 PM steve_jeeve_01: [72] that's true, b_rad...which is why I'm kinda worried about nuclear war.
12:42:11 PM chan_tee_meng: read the gospels pray..ask him to reveal himself to you
12:42:12 PM dead_snoopy: i dont think we know the truth about georgia/ russia/ little ossetia, we hardly know whats happening in washington
12:42:14 PM chan_tee_meng: in the holy spirit
12:42:17 PM braided_n_gold: [335] watcha looking for?
12:42:20 PM irreligious_one: it is called a UFO rather than "starship" or "flying saucer" because those who claim to see UFOs can't identify them as such.
12:42:22 PM pompous_ass1: Bible bangin' chuckleheads.
12:42:24 PM scary_religious_guy: [112] irr, read David Jacobs, Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber, Jacques Vallee, Ivan Sanderson, and Ray Fowler for starters
12:42:30 PM dead_snoopy: file under: none of our business
12:42:30 PM gremlin_net: [97] newage: Or so you assume, based on your underqualified expectations of smart people. There's your flaw.
12:42:31 PM irreligious_one: no.
12:42:33 PM piratessa15: Oh Pomp
12:42:42 PM kaiteflynn: [8] can't argue god unless you define god first
12:42:43 PM the_acosmicist: [19] Here's something to ponder: The only thing theology of any value whatsoever is the fear that it will affect your afterlife.
12:42:46 PM osirianmasculo: [24] braided_n_gold, im oretty lit up on pain med and nerve med so I do feel better but damn woman, I feel like the air got let out of meh
12:42:50 PM dead_snoopy: you cant hug a child with nuclear arms
12:42:52 PM redblade_dancer: hello
12:42:53 PM osirianmasculo: [25] braided_n_gold, ty for asking
12:42:54 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: hehe how are you basing your premise on my qualifications?
12:42:55 PM the_acosmicist: [20] making*
12:42:56 PM scary_religious_guy: [113] and John Mack, and Stanton Friedman.....
12:43:01 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: lol gremlin get off your horse
12:43:10 PM scary_religious_guy: [114] and J. Allen Hynek
12:43:10 PM nakedguitarplaya: america!
12:43:12 PM pompous_ass1: You can't define that which does not exist.
12:43:13 PM braided_n_gold: [336] hope your gums heal quickly
12:43:15 PM piratessa15: you guys need to say 'over' when you stop talking...
12:43:15 PM chan_tee_meng: you have 2 choices : read and master 'the existence of god' by swinburne (learning in the process confirmation theory via bayesian analysis of conditional probabilities'...or 'read the gospels' pray to jesus
12:43:15 PM nakedguitarplaya: freedom!
12:43:19 PM gremlin_net: [98] newage: My premise is that I'm okay with arguing. Your premise is that I hate to do it, being smart. You're wrong.
12:43:20 PM subtle_epitaph: Dagmar: I have to disagree with you; I can invent anything undisprovable, declare myself an expert in the made up field, and declare that you can't argue with me, since you aren't an expert... Don't you see the problem with this line of logic?
12:43:22 PM braided_n_gold: [337] no shyt tessa
12:43:24 PM steve_jeeve_01: [73] ned, lol...see what I mean?....you're gonna be fun for us the next few hours, bro.
12:43:24 PM kaiteflynn: [9] pomp - do you think you exist?
12:43:26 PM scary_religious_guy: [115] and Charles Berlitz and William Moore....
12:43:27 PM a_perfect_world_2008: I like Jim Marrs Scary, have you read him yet?
12:43:29 PM steve_jeeve_01: [74] Ned, I love you, bro.
12:43:29 PM braided_n_gold: [338] it's the ned n steve show
12:43:31 PM osirianmasculo: [26] ty so do I man Jesus god testen me for sumthen, hope its big
12:43:34 PM steve_jeeve_01: [75] Ned.
12:43:39 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: gremlin your arguing intellectualism for the sake of intellectualism and starting with a false premise your are above
12:43:40 PM gremlin_net: [99] newage: What you probably don't get is that arguing is entertaining. Even after the fact.
12:43:43 PM braided_n_gold: [339] the essence of chat love
12:43:47 PM braided_n_gold: [340]
12:43:48 PM piratessa15:
12:43:54 PM pompous_ass1: ....and all definitions are product of mind, no substance and not nec. in keepoing with experiencial reality....just hope and wish.
12:43:58 PM steve_jeeve_01: [76] right on, george!
12:44:02 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: sure, it's entertaining and circular arguments are the most entertaining of all
12:44:06 PM a_perfect_world_2008: And when I say "Marrs" ... I mean it
12:44:09 PM gremlin_net: [100] a_perfect_world_2008: So, you worship Quetzalcoatl. That's so weird. I think I can write you off as a lunatic now.
12:44:10 PM the_acosmicist: [21] chan_tee_meng: I'll read that book... But I'm willing to wager it's just an updated, reworded spew of the same old teleological argumentation.
12:44:13 PM kaiteflynn: [10] pomp - what if God were defined as complete abstract Mind
12:44:14 PM irreligious_one: clearly...if they had anything useful to add to any argument about the nature and purpose of these "UFOs"..i'm pretty sure I would have come in contact with them by now
12:44:16 PM haruspicna: We know what Russia stands to lose if it doesn't hold to the international expectations. Now what does it stand to gain
12:44:18 PM piratessa15: She doesn't make very good sex tapes
12:44:23 PM braided_n_gold: [341] lol
12:44:27 PM piratessa15:
12:44:31 PM osirianmasculo: [27] sex tapes are gay
12:44:32 PM pompous_ass1: Like daddy said- "wish in one hand and shiit in the other....which hand fills first?"
12:44:33 PM kaiteflynn: [11] that is the same description as Nirvana
12:44:40 PM scary_religious_guy: [116] harus, control of supply routes from the Mideast to Western Europe
12:44:47 PM piratessa15: Dink, stop being gay
12:44:53 PM dead_snoopy: quetzcoatle is like aztec/mayan jesus
12:44:54 PM chan_tee_meng: acos: swinburne is an admirer of thomas aquinas..who is by common consent one of the greatest christian thinkers who has ever lived..
12:44:55 PM braided_n_gold: [342] shoots the mic hogs
12:44:55 PM haruspicna: [1] It will lose possible NATO membership
12:44:56 PM kaiteflynn: [12] people fukked up the concept of god by making him in their (ego) image
12:44:59 PM osirianmasculo: [28] stopping being gay is gay
12:45:04 PM redblade_dancer: they want to reconstitute the soviet union
12:45:04 PM osirianmasculo: [29] heh I can do this all day
12:45:07 PM pompous_ass1: Kaite...why call that god....the term god implies alot more than that.
12:45:08 PM piratessa15: hmmm not necessarily..
12:45:15 PM braided_n_gold: [343]
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12:45:18 PM haruspicna: [2] Bush won't let that happen.
12:45:19 PM pompous_ass1: ...alot of deluded ideas.
12:45:19 PM piratessa15: Nah, George is just a lame duck now..
12:45:19 PM irreligious_one: but guess what? they've not crossed my radar...and trust me...i investigate...and I don't subsist on the evidence of people looking for space ships rather than to actually identify these UFOs
12:45:23 PM kaiteflynn: [13] pomp - Absolute can be used in place
12:45:26 PM osirianmasculo: [30] ducks are gay
12:45:29 PM dead_snoopy:
12:45:34 PM haruspicna: [3] Bush won't let Russia take over Georgia
12:45:35 PM piratessa15: He's just partying until the day his term is over..
12:45:35 PM gremlin_net: [101] a_perfect_world_2008: But: Since Quetzalcoatl by various reports disallows its worshippers from worshipping other deities, like Jehovah....
12:45:36 PM braided_n_gold: [344] rasp
12:45:38 PM gremlin_net: [102] a_perfect_world_2008: What's your 'logic' in lacking belief in Jehovah?
12:45:40 PM chan_tee_meng: existence of god..gives you contemporary arguments..but if you want to be really blown away by the thought of one of the greatest christian thinkers of all time...read aquinas..
12:45:44 PM osirianmasculo: [31] interior design isn't gay thou
12:45:46 PM steve_jeeve_01: [77] snoopy, you see that, too?
12:45:46 PM chan_tee_meng: the guy never lets up..
12:45:48 PM haruspicna: [4] Troops are going in now
12:45:50 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Quetzalcoatl is a story Gremlin, don't lose your marbles
12:45:51 PM nakedguitarplaya: home decor rules
12:45:52 PM scary_religious_guy: [117] irr, im a UFO abductee myself, and if i set a camera out to try to catch one i would need to leave it running
12:45:52 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: gremlin no one here denies you're bright. likely by default this means you are bright. by with that brightness should come, and i stress "should" your recognition of that brightness in others. so it really makes me wonder....
12:45:54 PM dead_snoopy: i dont know
12:45:56 PM chan_tee_meng: his summa theologica..is a cathedral of thought
12:45:58 PM kaiteflynn: [14] chan, yes, and St. Theresa, and St. John of the Cross
12:46:02 PM piratessa15: Snoop
12:46:02 PM irreligious_one* All the useless people, where do they all come from. All the useless people, where do they all belong? Into the killfile goes scary_religious_guy.
12:46:05 PM osirianmasculo: [32] nakedguitarplaya, amen brotha
12:46:06 PM scary_religious_guy: [118] every day and night for at least 10 years before registering a "hit"
12:46:06 PM irreligious_one: that's it buddy.
12:46:07 PM a_perfect_world_2008: you've only got maybe 1 or 2 left, might want to be careful
12:46:07 PM chan_tee_meng: the mind that came up with that is in a class by itself
12:46:09 PM piratessa15: lol
12:46:13 PM scary_religious_guy: [119] and that's IF they dont cut the power to it.
12:46:13 PM dead_snoopy: man, tell about your ufo thing
12:46:14 PM piratessa15: Ned...
12:46:19 PM gremlin_net: [103] newage: I recognise brightness in others. And?
12:46:22 PM ondoher2* (away) (idle) (Idle)
12:46:23 PM haruspicna: [5] Russia is digging a whole for itself
12:46:25 PM pompous_ass1: Absolute is not the same as god....god implies a entity that is responsible for creation of all things including morality, etc....that's just fluff in the mind.
12:46:26 PM dead_snoopy: ufos are better topic than russia
12:46:26 PM piratessa15: lol..
12:46:28 PM irreligious_one: you are useless, useless, useless.
12:46:29 PM haruspicna: [6] hole -lol
12:46:29 PM steve_jeeve_01: [78] either it is on purpose or just the only way for matters of the world to play out, but HEY!...looks to be happenin', kinda, sorta.
12:46:34 PM osirianmasculo: [33] ufo's are gay, oh and jyi, you don't need to be abducted to get your anal probed
12:46:36 PM kaiteflynn: [15] pomp - there is nothing outside of Mind
12:46:37 PM steve_jeeve_01: [79] lol rasputin
12:46:39 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: and i'm not sure you do.
12:46:43 PM chan_tee_meng: no cd-roms..no advanced libraries ..no concordances...aquinas was an utter genius with total recall..
12:46:47 PM irreligious_one: all you do with statments like that is buy my derision
12:46:53 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: only if they agree with you
12:46:57 PM gremlin_net: [104] a_perfect_world_2008: Now you DON'T believe in Quetzalcoatl? Schizophrenic maniac. Okay: what's your 'logic' in lacking belief in Quetzalcoatl?
12:46:58 PM piratessa15: NED
12:46:59 PM haruspicna: [7] Condi Rice is the Russian expert
12:47:03 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Notice how he edits his gotards site as well, editing out the people who are destroying him
12:47:07 PM osirianmasculo: [34] experts are gay
12:47:10 PM scary_religious_guy: [120] dead, it's a lot to go into, because over a period of many years now i have been recovering memories
12:47:12 PM gremlin_net: [105] a_perfect_world_2008: Not logic; try again, Troll....
12:47:13 PM steve_jeeve_01: [80] b_rad, we ALREADY are building up a war machine in georgia, bro?
12:47:19 PM redblade_dancer: they're more bi than gay
12:47:19 PM chan_tee_meng: he remembered everything he ever read..almost..thats how he could write the summa..not 1 but 2...and how he could dictate to 3 or 4 secretaries at a time
12:47:23 PM steve_jeeve_01: [81] lol @ ned.
12:47:26 PM haruspicna: [8] yep, She is laying down the law
12:47:27 PM osirianmasculo: [35] a_perfect_world_2008, you can get an account and counter post
12:47:31 PM kaiteflynn: [16] you have given a crazy meaning to the term "God", if God is all there is, then he/she/it must be the Absolute
12:47:32 PM chan_tee_meng: note: Aquinas is the Catholic Church's greatest thinker
12:47:39 PM pompous_ass1: Just admit you don't know alot of things about the universe and that is okay....and admit you may never know....that is okay too. No need to make shiit up to quell your fear of the unknown....train yourself to accept and find contentment in it.
12:47:41 PM nakedguitarplaya: vladamir putin will kill dubbya with poison, have they ever met?
12:47:41 PM piratessa15: no..they don't have the money to host two wars at once
12:47:42 PM osirianmasculo: [36] I would but I am far too self involved
12:47:48 PM a_perfect_world_2008: If I took the time to do that Osirian, then I really would be a loser, I don't think so
12:47:57 PM gremlin_net: [106] osirianmasculo: Also, anyone recording a logue in here can compare it to the record there. a_perfect_world_2008's false witness notwithstanding.
12:48:01 PM nakedguitarplaya: ya i think dubbyas resources r running thin
12:48:01 PM haruspicna: [9] Bush is not afraid of War at all
12:48:05 PM piratessa15:
12:48:11 PM piratessa15: ostrich!!!
12:48:13 PM steve_jeeve_01: [82] ground squirrel?
12:48:16 PM piratessa15: oh..
12:48:16 PM nakedguitarplaya: hes at the bottom of a very expensive barrel
12:48:16 PM osirianmasculo: [37] a_perfect_world_2008, yeah, I don't expect that site to last long anyway, doesn't it show a retarded person on it?
12:48:20 PM kaiteflynn: [17] haruspicna - that's because he doesn't have to fight in one
12:48:20 PM piratessa15: giraffe
12:48:22 PM kaiteflynn: [18] and never did
12:48:25 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Gremlin is like an ant, I have to put effort NOT to step on him
12:48:29 PM gremlin_net: [107] a_perfect_world_2008: So, your 'logic' allowing you to lack belief in Quetzalcoatl is so flawed that, what, you're ashamed to display it?
12:48:29 PM dead_snoopy: "I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straight forward and trustworthy and we had a very good dialogue." bush re meeting putin
12:48:50 PM a_perfect_world_2008: it would be too easy to utterly catapult him
12:48:58 PM piratessa15: lolllllllllllllll
12:48:59 PM scary_religious_guy: [121] what did McCain say? "I looked into the eyes of Putin and saw the KGB?"
12:49:04 PM nakedguitarplaya:
12:49:06 PM piratessa15: steve
12:49:08 PM irreligious_one: if you were abducted by a UFO and not on a mindbending drug trip...you should have the object identified to some extent and "UFO" would have left your vocabulary a long time ago.
12:49:08 PM the_acosmicist: [22] chan_tee_meng: May I suggest quoting something profound?
12:49:11 PM osirianmasculo: [38] eh everyone has thier idiosyncrocies and someone'll have to sp ck that too
12:49:15 PM kaiteflynn: [19] yeah, but mccain also said he was the president of germany
12:49:16 PM gremlin_net: [108] a_perfect_world_2008: Catapulting me would be easier than defending your lack of belief in Quetzalcoatl logically?
12:49:18 PM evolutioncreate: i get the notion they are trigged by me
12:49:22 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: i'm lost on the whole quetzacoatl bit actually,
12:49:24 PM chan_tee_meng: and toe toook go ahead quote it
12:49:24 PM scary_religious_guy: [122] i wasnt abducted by the machine
12:49:28 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: i haven't been following it
12:49:33 PM scary_religious_guy: [123] beings came into my house and took me out.
12:49:33 PM subtle_epitaph: Snoopy: Bush picks his allies the same way he picks countries to invade: by asking his dad's buddies
12:49:34 PM redblade_dancer: i think McCain thinks checkpoint charlie is still there
12:49:36 PM alcyonian* (away) (idle) (Idle)
12:49:39 PM gremlin_net: [109] a_perfect_world_2008: So far, you've done neither. One because you're weak and stupid; the other because you're a troll.
12:49:41 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Should I take the time? naaa
12:49:45 PM nakedguitarplaya: scary, and then they put u back, right?
12:49:48 PM nakedguitarplaya: right back in bed?
12:49:49 PM nakedguitarplaya: mmhmm
12:49:50 PM piratessa15: lol
12:49:57 PM nakedguitarplaya: u werent abducted dude
12:49:59 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: gremlin is one part of this in voice?
12:49:59 PM scary_religious_guy: [124] after a few hours yes -- this didnt just happen once though
12:50:01 PM osirianmasculo: [39] I think it's cute that ppl like to pretend that the opponet is worthy of them proving themselves too
12:50:05 PM kaiteflynn: [20] Baker told him NOT to go into Iraq, his dad stopped before he went in too far too
12:50:12 PM scary_religious_guy: [125] i didnt have a say in where i was going.
12:50:12 PM osirianmasculo: [40] I don't have to prove shit
12:50:22 PM scary_religious_guy: [126] what do you call that?
12:50:23 PM kaiteflynn: [21] bush was listening to the neocons
12:50:28 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Quetzalcoatl is a mythological story Gremlin, you have heard of myths before, yes?
12:50:30 PM osirianmasculo: [41] god is donky Kong, I don't have to prove it, eat shit and bark at the moon, thats how I roll
12:50:31 PM irreligious_one: "i was abducted by aliens and taken aboard their ship" should have been the first thing out of your mouth if you really believed you experienced such an event
12:50:33 PM chan_tee_meng: hey why are all of you ganging up on gremlin
12:50:40 PM nakedguitarplaya: scary what did they do to you?
12:50:43 PM nakedguitarplaya: operate?
12:50:46 PM piratessa15: whatever
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12:50:54 PM gremlin_net: [110] newage: Nope. The troll claimed that, if I read ten pages of some book, the logic I use to decline to believe in deities would evaporate.
12:50:54 PM gremlin_net: [111] So I'm waiting to hear its logic for lacking belief in Quetzalcoatl.
12:51:01 PM osirianmasculo: [42] I'll prove god when flowers prove dirt
12:51:02 PM chan_tee_meng: gremlin you have your hands full..grem
12:51:03 PM the_acosmicist: [23] chan_tee_meng: I know a lot of people who read a lot of books.
12:51:03 PM scary_religious_guy: [127] ive gone into this before in this room, and it's becoming like an open sore
12:51:04 PM the_acosmicist: [24] Those names sound familiar. If there was something important, life changing, or even sound argumentation coming from those people, I expect I would have heard about it.
12:51:04 PM piratessa15: Does it matter if it does or not?
12:51:06 PM evolutioncreate: unlike your "friends"
12:51:08 PM chan_tee_meng: 'the room is turning on gremlin..
12:51:09 PM dead_snoopy: quetzalcoatle was born in tula and stopped human sacrifice among the toltecs
12:51:10 PM evolutioncreate: i wont stare down at you
12:51:11 PM steve_jeeve_01: [83] b_rad, you've...heard of this before now then?
12:51:14 PM gremlin_net: [112] If the book didn't cause that lack of belief to evaporate, then it won't have much effect.
12:51:14 PM chan_tee_meng: the heat is getting turned up..
12:51:15 PM irreligious_one: but I was a UFO abductee??? who do you think you're trying to fool?
12:51:16 PM osirianmasculo: [43] <---believes in god like fish believe in water
12:51:19 PM steve_jeeve_01: [84] yeah, it is, b_rad.
12:51:26 PM piratessa15: I mean, are you saying there's something we can do to prevent it
12:51:29 PM nakedguitarplaya: scary, i think ive experienced the abducteee phenomena too
12:51:30 PM gremlin_net: [113] a_perfect_world_2008: Jehovah is a mythological story too. They're equal.
12:51:30 PM chan_tee_meng: note to room: some people are trying to fry gremlin right now..
12:51:31 PM steve_jeeve_01: [85] fuck I want OUT of densely populated areas NOW!
12:51:32 PM scary_religious_guy: [128] i have to ignore some people before i proceed
12:51:32 PM pompous_ass1: It's like saying....I want god to exist, so therefore he does....how ignorant it that?
12:51:32 PM osirianmasculo: [44] <--- believes in god like plants believe in photosythisis
12:51:33 PM dr.pooky: lol ufo abductee
12:51:35 PM kaiteflynn: [22] osirian - that's an excellent way to put it
12:51:40 PM osirianmasculo: [45] eeeyiP there is another sp ck item
12:51:43 PM dead_snoopy: right man
12:51:45 PM a_perfect_world_2008: No one likes Gremlin, let's be honest, he's labelled you all as gotards and places himself up on a totem, very much in a 80 IQish kind of way
12:51:46 PM osirianmasculo: [46] kaiteflynn
12:51:52 PM gremlin_net: [114] a_perfect_world_2008: So, why didn't your book talk you into believing in Quetzalcoatl?
12:51:54 PM chan_tee_meng: is gremin really a scientist?
12:51:57 PM kaiteflynn: [23]
12:51:57 PM subtle_epitaph: Perfect: why are your myths any more valid than the aztec's?
12:52:01 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: you're
12:52:03 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: meh
12:52:08 PM irreligious_one: trying to pick up chicks at UFO abductee meetings and roleplaying it out faithfully so you don't expose ulterior motives?
12:52:14 PM scary_religious_guy: [129] the one i usually think of first is the one that happened when i was 8 years old and living in Maryland
12:52:21 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Christianity isn't on the mythological shelf, stories of Quetzalcoatl are. Ingenius!
12:52:21 PM piratessa15: I think they're trying to be diplomatic to one another at the moment
12:52:26 PM chan_tee_meng: look leave him be...that's his way of making friends..of telling us indirectly that he likes us..
12:52:45 PM chan_tee_meng: hey dagmar im pretty impressed that u r muslim and yet you have heard of craig?
12:52:47 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: it's only a tactic to make you appear correct
12:52:48 PM redblade_dancer: Virgin births sounds like myth to me
12:52:50 PM gremlin_net: [115] a_perfect_world_2008: All deital creation stories are mythological, by definition. Feel free to look the word up.
12:52:51 PM subtle_epitaph: So barnes and noble shelf stockers determine which gods are real... I see...
12:52:59 PM scary_religious_guy: [130] i woke up and saw a lot of light coming in the window, bluish white, very bright
12:53:04 PM osirianmasculo: [47] I'm pretty sure it takes just as much energy to believe as it does to disbelieve, personally I think it is endearing that so many still care enough to call themselves atheist
12:53:09 PM dead_snoopy: Quetzacoatl>e<
12:53:09 PM gremlin_net: [116] a_perfect_world_2008: So, in any case, your book wouldn't coax me into believing in Quetzalcoatl?
12:53:10 PM pompous_ass1: The stupidest thing people do is pretend to know and espouse as fact....that which they can't possibly know. The worst of these are those who claim to be supernaturally inspired!
12:53:12 PM scary_religious_guy: [131] and i could hear someone moving around in the house
12:53:14 PM dr.pooky: people who think they've been abductee are simply experiancing sleep paralysis.
12:53:15 PM haruspicna: [10] Reports of wide spread fighting, looting and burning have circulated in Western media outlets, prompting US President George W. Bush to warn Russia to withdraw to its pre-ceasefire positions. Bush also committed US Air Force and US Navy to efforts to deliver humanitarian aid
12:53:16 PM haruspicna: [11] to Georgian cities and blockaded ports
12:53:16 PM irreligious_one: you made this about you...and you're gonna have to lie in that muck.
12:53:20 PM dr.pooky: abducted
12:53:22 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Come on Gremlin, give us another zinger lol
12:53:30 PM chan_tee_meng: ok guys heres the deal if you guys feel the need to fry gremlin..go right ahead
12:53:30 PM piratessa15: nothing.
12:53:36 PM chan_tee_meng: i wont interfere
12:53:37 PM scary_religious_guy: [132] i got up to look and i saw someone about three and a half feet tall about to peer around the corner of my doorway
12:53:41 PM mal_lockridge: [1] hi snoopy
12:53:45 PM dead_snoopy: hi mal
12:53:46 PM gremlin_net: [117] a_perfect_world_2008: So, it WOULD trick me into believing in Quetzalcoatl? Okay. That could be cool. What was the book again?
12:53:50 PM piratessa15: and so, the moral of the story here? just be
12:53:58 PM a_perfect_world_2008: I see your vain attempts to discredit me Gremlin, but I can hit your curve balls, you're not fooling anyone
12:53:58 PM kaiteflynn: [24] unfortunately, Bush cannot do anything about the Georgia/Russia situation
12:54:02 PM pompous_ass1: I need to start writing down or saving these statements I make....they are brilliant.
12:54:03 PM scary_religious_guy: [133] and then he or it was there, and there was another one like him
12:54:11 PM gremlin_net: [118] a_perfect_world_2008: That title sucks. A lot.
12:54:16 PM mal_lockridge: [2] other than create it, kaiteflynn
12:54:19 PM piratessa15: Pomp!!! I thought you meant my stuff
12:54:21 PM kaiteflynn: [25] you can write a book pomp
12:54:24 PM pompous_ass1: <--is the smartest man alive.
12:54:26 PM piratessa15: Mal is here??????
12:54:27 PM kaiteflynn: [26] mal, haha
12:54:28 PM chan_tee_meng: since gremlin has attacked us before..here's the deal..i say to you..go ahead..give him a drubbing..go ahead fry him up...it's his turn to be slammed..and he needs to take it like a man
12:54:29 PM scary_religious_guy: [134] i moved toward them figuring they were kids from the neighborhood, except they looked wrong for that
12:54:32 PM gremlin_net: [119] They shoulda called it Baseball at Thirty-five Thousand Feet.
12:54:33 PM piratessa15: Kaite????
12:54:33 PM irreligious_one: yes he can...he can wait for Europe to do something about it...he can do that.
12:54:34 PM osirianmasculo: [48] god could come up to me when I was all alone and give me an Ipod, and I would think OH BOY! proof that God exists! but guess what, no one will believe me, or that God likes apple products so what is the fucking use
12:54:37 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: bush can do alot about the georgia russia situation. just not overtly, in this moment.
12:54:38 PM gremlin_net: [120] I woulda.
12:54:41 PM dead_snoopy: maybe Quetzacoatle was based on real person: reformer or viking visitor
12:54:44 PM scary_religious_guy: [135] because i was going to throw them out of the house
12:54:46 PM dr.pooky: an uncommon, was there a "hag" on your chest as well?
12:54:49 PM scary_religious_guy: [136] they had other ideas
12:54:51 PM chan_tee_meng: my message to gremlin's opponents: go right ahead and fry the guy..his hour has come..
12:54:53 PM piratessa15: let's just have a Buddhist Room One welcome party...
12:54:58 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: removing russia from the g8 would be devastating for russia
12:54:58 PM mal_lockridge: [3] i said something funny? you maybe dont understand world events, kaiteflynn
12:55:00 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: truly
12:55:12 PM kaiteflynn: [27] dagmar, that is surprising, his wife must have clued him in
12:55:12 PM piratessa15: Steve...the party's ovvvverrrrr
12:55:13 PM dr.pooky: indeedly doo
12:55:14 PM osirianmasculo: [49] god has to give me an Ipod infront of like a kazillion ppl, THEN it's real
12:55:14 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Ok, i'll destroy Gremlin some more then ........
12:55:16 PM pompous_ass1: Too much BS going on in here to keep up and make brilliant statements...I'm not sure if this is my kinda' medium.
12:55:18 PM osirianmasculo: [50] the world is crazee man
12:55:22 PM piratessa15: Ned, are you still here?
12:55:23 PM redblade_dancer: the Ukraine is next...
12:55:25 PM the_acosmicist: [25] chan_tee_meng: Shutup cheerleader, you haven't brought anything useful to the room so far.
12:55:29 PM scary_religious_guy: [137] one of them held up a device that looked like -- it was cylindrical, round, silvery, about the size and shape of a flashlight
12:55:29 PM gremlin_net: [121] amazon;com hasn't got the thing. Oh well.
12:55:33 PM pompous_ass1: ...add the bots and yer fuccked.
12:55:36 PM irreligious_one: membership has been requested in the EU by Georgia and on Europes end they've entered into negotiations and offered requirements
12:55:39 PM gremlin_net: [122] I'm gonna go add this before it all gets way too long....
12:55:40 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: ukraine is overtly supporting georgia now
12:55:44 PM gremlin_net: [123] strangelove
12:55:47 PM chan_tee_meng: acos im sleepy at the moment..another day..ive brought a lot before..
12:55:48 PM scary_religious_guy: [138] and next thing i knew i hit the floor paralyzed and partially numbed
12:55:49 PM gremlin_net: [124] Fucking hell.
12:55:53 PM gremlin_net: [125] What an idiot.
12:55:53 PM subtle_epitaph: Quetzacoatl was a snake with wings, a dragonlike thing I think; sounds about as believable as a cosmic jewish mind reading zombie to me...
12:55:58 PM haruspicna: The 2008 South Ossetia war is a war that began on August 7 , 2008 , and involves the country of Georgia , the Russian Federation and the unrecognised republics of South Ossetia and Abkhazi
12:55:58 PM dead_snoopy: maybe there isnt an e
12:56:07 PM kaiteflynn: [28] the room is moving too fast to keep up with everyone
12:56:08 PM dr.pooky: russia isnt going to attack ukraine.
12:56:08 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: ukraine told russia they cannot use ukrainian ports without permission each port entry and exit,
12:56:09 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Gremlin first takes some strange tangent off of your logic, trying to lure you into some strange argument, once he stuns you into wondering how you're talking about such weirdness in the first place, he insults you ......
12:56:11 PM piratessa15: Neither party wants an incident
12:56:11 PM irreligious_one: and Europe needs to intervene or allow it to happen. Bush should just watch from afar
12:56:19 PM piratessa15: yea..
12:56:22 PM mal_lockridge: [4] correct, dr.pooky.
12:56:23 PM new_age_gilgamesh_2004: that is a big stand
12:56:29 PM a_perfect_world_2008: Once you become enraged at his insults, he presses 'record' and then he tried to show your anger as a method of discrediting you, on his website.
12:56:35 PM chan_tee_meng: perfect..world..ok ill take your word for it..
12:56:38 PM a_perfect_world_2008: It's very juvenile